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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 42 points 2 years ago

All the physical games i ever owned went up in flames when my house burned down. I can still play games i bought on steam in 2008

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 19 points 2 years ago

You could have made digital backups of your physical games and stored that somewhere safe.

You cannot make backups of DRM'd Steam games that work without Steam.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 51 points 2 years ago

Please don't fucking tell me you mad digital backup of your 50 xbox games and 40 playstation games and have a modded playstation and xbox laying around where you can just burn them whenever you wanna play them.

[-] burliman@lemm.ee 46 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Some of the replies in this thread are so disingenuous.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Just because you don't care about backing things up doesn't mean nobody else is.

[-] QueriesQueried@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I can promise the number of people backing up their Xbox/SNES/Sony/whatever games at the time/era of release, are a rounding error number of people who purchased at all. And even if that was the case, how are you gonna do that for the discs that have DRM? Obviously it can be cracked, but how does that help you in that specific time of need (referencing the house fire), when the tech to crack that DRM didn't even exist?

Nobody is arguing with "physical copies have better security" (digital storefronts closing, keys being revoked, etc), they're only arguing with you for pretending everyone is seemingly clairvoyant, with pools of money and compute hardware, to make backups of these things. There is no way you can possibly think that all one needed to do was "copy da files dumbass" when even the hardware to do that, didn't exist (for the public or at all), or was itself prohibitevly expensive.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago

Don't need to burn them, you can play them off a USB! Or over an SMB share.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 2 points 2 years ago

How do you think PS2 ROMs are uploaded?

[-] Skipcast@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

You can't make digital backups of physical games with drm either since you need the original disc to play (or atleast that was the case last time I bought a physical game which is probably around 2005 or something lmao)

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 22 points 2 years ago

You are spot on, DRM is the problem at the core. That's why I prefer DRM-free stores like GOG over Steam whenever possible.

Luckily many of the old games I own on CD are also available on GOG.

[-] Laser@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

Steam doesn't enforce DRM, your game can use Steamworks even without DRM.

The no-DRM policy sure is very good, but in the end any game on GoG is there by choice of the publisher, who could also choose not to use DRM on Steam.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 11 points 2 years ago

Many games on Steam use Steamworks DRM despite being available DRM-free on other stores, one prominent example being Batman Arkham City.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Digital backups of my Steam games exist on torrents. If Steam ever becomes shitty like this I can stop purchasing from them and reacquire it from the Jolly Roger.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

That's what house insurance is for.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

"Have you considered Game Insurance?" - Ubisoft, probably

this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2023
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