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submitted 11 months ago by GiddyGap@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world

"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 57 points 11 months ago

If they succeed in electing Trump, Democrats won't need to reflect about anything because they won't be allowed to run for office anymore.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 35 points 11 months ago

But the Anti-Biden folks will be able to tell the next generation that they "stood up for their own ideals!" Sure, they won't have prevented any genocide, and they will have put the party into power that is currently trying to set up a fascist theocracy, but they can go to sleep knowing they have personal integrity!

/s

[-] fenynro@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The other side of this being someone saying "we're not going to legislate anything that will help you, and fuck you for asking, but vote for us because we won't actively genocide you" which is not really a great selling point but yeah at least we're avoiding the worse stuff.

It's a bit ironic that it's always "Vote for Democrats or democracy dies" when that setup is inherently undemocratic, since your vote can't go anywhere but the single choice that lets you still have a vote

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago

It's a sucky system, for sure, but we have zero chance to fix it by sprinting towards Fascism.

And perhaps it's ultimately a lost cause, but given the demographic shift of Millennials and Gen Z, I think it's far from a foregone conclusion.

[-] floppade@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Please go look up the political compass. Both parties are fascist.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago

Yeah, sorry. You're going to have to give me a source for that claim.

[-] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

This is exactly what I thought when I read that. What kind of "recalibrating" do they think they're going to get to do with a christian fascist lording over the country?

I can't help but have conspiracy theory thoughts, like this is some kind of conservative campaign. It's hard to rule anything out anymore, and the idea of muslims voting for trump is just that fucking stupid.

[-] floppade@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Or you could actually hear them out rather than discredit them. Biden is killing their families in mass right now. You want them to think about how Trump might hurt them later? Which is actually happening now? Does making Biden think he will win encourage him to stop participating in the war crimes that he’s being referred to the ICC for?

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 8 points 11 months ago

This is how democracies die.

[-] floppade@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

If you’re one election cycle away from collapse, you’re already dead.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

If Democrats don't try to get them back, they won't get them back.

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