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Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.

“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.

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[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

Uh huh.

And yet she’s giving Israel bombs to destroy people’s homes. Literally forcibly relocating them. Never mind that 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated from their land 75 years ago.

These statements are just cover for more Israeli murder. It’s designed to make people feel complacent.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Wait so 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated, why 50% of Gaza are children under 18...

Make up your mind over your made up numbers please.

And calling this war "Israeli murder" is ignoring the existence of actual terrorists who keep innocent civilians hostage, and who targeted attacked and murdered over 1,000 innocents.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I call people who kill 5000 children with bombs murderers.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.

Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, when the IDF purposely bomb schools, hospitals, evacuation corridors which they told to evacuate through, UN facilitates, etc. that makes them murderers.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don't be surprised that it's being destroyed - in a war.

Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That's just hypocrisy.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Fun fact. Murder does not justify more murder.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you've been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can't retaliate, you're just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh look words that aren't the words I said.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

"murder does not justify more murder"

The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don't know that, you're living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. "Murder isn't justified" -> "war isn't justified". Very simple logic.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No. You don't get to conflate war crimes with normal casualties.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Whatever, I really don't care about what you think. You can blame it all on one side, ignoring the ruthlessness of the other on their enemies and even on their own citizens. Just ignore Hamas hiding guns in schools, ignore them firing rockets from public parks, ignore them targeting civilians (with no military infrastructure/personnel). Just ignore it all, and blame the jews for everything. Just like the 1930s. "War crimes" my ass. If you really cared about war crimes you would've complained to Hamas, not the IDF.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not blaming it all on one side. But Hamas' war crimes do not justify the IDF's. And only one demographic is actually in existential danger, no matter how much Netanyahu shouts about it.

This isn't the 1930's. We aren't complaining about Jews. We are complaining about Israel.

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