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Anyone with a functioning brain is part of the “anti-4kids crowd”, I can assure you the majority of them agrees with your first statement as well.
Whenever you seen an anime watcher complaining about censorship in kids cartoons that’s what they complain about
4kids gave us the best TMNT series
Uhh... no? Despite the fact that a lot of anime they dubbed was shounen, so for teens (but obviously they wouldn't know because cartoons are only kid stuff in their head), if they only censored sexualization of minors, or sexualization at all, people would be much, much less mad.
They censored every small mention of blood and death and most japanese cultural references, changed 90% of the names and soundtrack, straight-up skipped episodes and oversimplified dialogues dumbing down every message the series might've tried to convey. That's criminal. Yu-Gi-Oh is literally a different series outside of Japan. I've seen series/games where the only censorship is on sexualization, and the backlash is nowhere nearly that bad.
Not to mention they also had horrible practices towards voice actors and licensors, so really, there's no reason not to hate those pieces of shit.
Yeah, they went the extra mile to deliver higher quality dubs compared to Funimaton
Ah yes, more denaturalization of the original product = higher quality. Wonder why they didn’t have Captain Europe when localizing Marvel movies.
And then people wonder why anime dubs have a bad reputation when the biggest companies producing them were literally in a race for who could fuck more shit up.
There are localization changes
Example https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/66927/small-details-inside-out-differ-depending-what-country-you-see-it
And, in most cases, they suck. The Inside Out ones I’ve seen are acceptable because they’re minimal and, as they say, "They learned that some of their content wouldn’t make sense in other countries". But 4Kids didn’t do that. They literally turned Japanese anime for teens into American cartoons for kids.
Removing any hint of a deep message in everything and making every series a travesty is nowhere nearly comparable to what Pixar, or other modern companies did. Pixar altered things to get the same message across, 4Kids did it to remove any, and change it with one of their dumb jokes (which, albeit often funny, were slammed in serious situations and killed the mood of everything. Make an original series if you want to do that).
Yeah Sonic, Kirby, Pokémon were definitely for teens
According to Wikipedia, they licensed 15 Anime franchises in total. 8 of those were originally aimed at teens, and probably have all been butchered.
Come on, we both know people aren’t hating on 4Kids because they removed a couple scenes from Kirby.