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[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 15 points 11 months ago

Politics, a long time ago, was once about civilly considering what spending and infrastructure actions to take as well as taking into account what can be done for the future.

But that's enough about The High Republic era, here in reality its always been a bloodbath.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I blame the American political system which seems purpose designed to be dysfunctional. Europe had perfectly normal political debating until about the mid 1980s, when people started to see American style politics on the news and that gave them the idea that they could act like that when they became politicians. Then 2001 happened and suddenly they could do whatever they wanted if they just blamed it on terrorists.

And then of course Trump came along and taught them that you can straight up just lie about things.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Europe had perfectly normal political debating until about the mid 1980s

Did you miss all of European history from neolithic times to 1950? They have been at each other's throats the entire time, starting 2 huge wars that dragged everyone else into it. Plus all the other Europe only wars.

Even after 1950 there was... the Cold War. Europe was literally divided in two parts with nuclear weapons pointed at each other. If you think Europe was civil, you are only looking at a few political parties in a few Western European countries for a few decades.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

Only one part of our political system has led to the current polarization, but it was enabled by a series of media developments going back to the 1980s with the abolition of the fairness doctrine, the subsequent rise of right wing AM talk radio, the invention of cable TV which catered to niche markets for the sake of advertising, the creation of Fox News --by an Australian who'd made his fortune in British tabloids-- and then finally the rise of social media which in turn fragmented media audience --what advertising companies like Google and Facebook sell to advertisers-- into ever tinier and increasingly homogeneous target groups with the result that cultural identity is now more important to how citizens make decisions than are actual policy issues.

To see that this is true, one need only look at the fact that people almost never change their minds about anything on the basis of facts or evidence for the very good reason that they don't form their opinions on the basis of facts and evidence in the first place and instead rely on cultural identity as a guide.

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