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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

These countries tried everything from cash to patriotic calls to duty to reverse drastically declining birth rates. It didn’t work.

If history is any guide, none of this will work: No matter what governments do to convince them to procreate, people around the world are having fewer and fewer kids.

In the US, the birth rate has been falling since the Great Recession, dropping almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022. Today, the average American woman has about 1.6 children, down from three in 1950, and significantly below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children needed to sustain a stable population. In Italy, 12 people now die for every seven babies born. In South Korea, the birth rate is down to 0.81 children per woman. In China, after decades of a strictly enforced one-child policy, the population is shrinking for the first time since the 1960s. In Taiwan, the birth rate stands at 0.87.

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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 111 points 11 months ago

And even if they want to, they can't afford to

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

But they're being paid!!!

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Except that is the whole point of the article, money isn't why.

[-] Ebennz@lemmy.ml 67 points 11 months ago

8 months pay isn't going to pay for 18 years

[-] UsernameHere@lemmings.world 46 points 11 months ago

From the article (that you didn’t read):

“In a 2018 US poll, about a quarter of respondents said they had or were planning to have fewer kids than they would ideally like to have. Of those, 64 percent cited the cost of child care as a reason. Ballooning costs — of child care, housing, college, and more — are an issue around the world”

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In 2009, after decades of falling birth rates, it began offering six months of paid parental leave, reimbursed at 60 percent of a new parent’s salary — then recently increased that share to 80 percent. The government has introduced a cash benefit and a tax break for parents of young children, and has invested in child care centers.

They're giving money but you're taking a 20% pay cut with massive increases in cost. Math doesn't really work that way. You'd probably need an extra $50k/year to even consider it.

Costs keep going up and income keeps going down.

At the end of the day it's a good thing. Less humans = less consumption = slowing the trashing of our planet.

Less billionaires would be better than less humans in general.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Exactly, Elon Musk has 11 kids and they'l contribute more to climate change than 1000 kids in China.

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