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[-] teft@startrek.website 80 points 1 year ago

Well the dog farmers hang, burn, and beat the shit out of the dogs before they kill them because they believe the fear and adrenaline improves the taste and makes them more tender....so yes I'd say it's worse.

[-] orvorn@slrpnk.net 57 points 1 year ago

Pigs, cows, and chickens also experience incredible suffering in factory farms. The whole industry is rotted.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

It is, but most of the actual killing in like 90% of the world is done as fast and cleanly as possible. If only to keep the process as efficient as possible.

Fun fact, if you want ethically killed meat (if such a thing can exist), the best option is actually Kosher meat. There are religious laws and such, and the easiest way to comply with them is a sort of guillotine. It's an instant death.

The animals of also generally better treated than most factory farm setups.

[-] Floey@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

A 90% figure that is pulled out of your ass sounds a lot less compelling when billions of animals are slaughtered for food each year. How many is too many? And the killing isn't even the worst part.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I think halal follows a lot of the same rules as well

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Similar, but in practice it's quite a bit different.

Halal requires a swift cut with a sharp knife across the throat of the animal. Severing the spine is expressly forbidden.

The animal then bleeds out, which can still be a quick death, but nowhere near as fast as decapitation, which is most commonly used in kosher butchery.

The bolt pistol used in modern butchery can also be instant. You place what looks like a pneumatic drill on the cow's forehead, and then pull the trigger. It fires a stainless steel rod forward into the cow's skull. The rod is captive at the end of its travel, so you just have to cock the tool, and you can use it again (provided it's actually pneumatically powered, and not powered by a blank round, or something else, there are a lot of versions, even some that are designed to not penetrate the skull.)

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

https://oukosher.org/blog/news/setting-the-record-straight-on-kosher-slaughter/

This says they don’t, it’s not gospel but, it’s one of the first results.

Not fighting, I just looked more into it because I am that special kind of crazy

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I look that sort of stuff up myself.

Now I'm not finding a source for the guillotine machine... I've seen one in person, and it had a spinning disc blade, because there are Jewish dietary laws that say you can't press the blade into the neck, it must be a slice.

It might also have been a case of an enterprising butcher being inventive and sidestepping the rules...

[-] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

It’s a weird dynamic. I feel no remorse eating pork or beef. I know the process, I raised farm animals as a kid. BUT, I know someone working on genetically modified pigs for human organ transplants and that makes me somehow uneasy.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Frankly that sounds like the sort of bullshit I’d hear from Greenpeace.

Even if that were true, have you seen say a chicken farm? Workers will cruelly abuse the ever living shit out of these animals for no reason.

I wouldn’t say it’s worse than…

The chickens at the farm were filmed being kicked, thrown to the ground and having their necks broken for fun.

“I hate it when their heads come off,” one female worker says in a clip.

“Yeah, it feels good, look,” a male worker replies.

“Oh, you’re cruel,” the woman say as a chicken writhes on the ground. The other workers can be heard laughing as they all watch the hen

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/secret-video-reveals-horrific-abuse-of-hens-inside-victorian-egg-farm/news-story/dd429e36eb2e210fc702c78663f6961d?amp

[-] teft@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

I was stationed in South Korea and saw them with my own eyeballs but you can believe whatever you like.

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