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Some would say that bringing it up in times like this strengthens the argument because even the vilest shouldn’t be extrajudicially punished in prison. And where should the conversation be? At just celebrating that he got stabbed?
Like, I do agree to an extent and I do wish prisons were reformed to a point where we could celebrate Chauvin getting shanked. But until then, prison violence will always lead to calls for better cause it really is the only time regular people can talk about it.
Honestly I'm too tired rn to give this conversation the fair amount of attention and I considered just not responding but
IMO the conversation about him should be the context of what can be done to change the systems in place to prevent more people like him from being put in positions of power in the first place. I can't exactly hand wave and make that happen, but honestly both takes on this seem like distractions from the point to me. "No one deserves this" and "haha fuck him" are both unproductive conversation towards preventing the kind of crimes he commited, but at least "haha fuck him" is cathartic and brief.
If you respond to me and I don't respond back I'm not trying to be rude I'm just tired
I also agree there but it’s not really on topic for him getting stabbed. Your frustration is more topical when it happens and the discussion is more about whether he’ll be punished than about preventing people like him from gaining power to begin with. There’re good reasons for those responses too, given the history of police brutality being covered up and that public pressure is genuinely important for ensuring justice, but still.
You make a good point in that reforming positions of power is comparatively rarely spoken about. It’s hard to tell when that’s topical enough for people to comment about it en masse. It becomes a large point when brutality happens, but society isn’t yet sure enough that the brutality will be punished for police reform to truly dominate discussion. At the least though, that discussion does happen, whereas that of prison reform is less common.
Anyway no need to respond cause I think we agree on the important bits, just maybe not on whether talking about prison reform specifically here is necessary. I still believe it is, since prison reform is more on topic than power reform and if it doesn’t happen here it will never happen, but I also strongly agree that power reform is an important conversation to have.