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[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Before we proceed to discuss this valuable political point, what is your opinion on JWBush's 1990 speech in Verkhovna Rada? Or you are of that bunch who thought oatmeal cookies on Maidan in 2014 were how these ammies bought Ukraine's independence?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

I'm of the opinion that US wanted political capture of as much of former USSR as it could get ever since USSR dissolved, and has succeeded in creating vassal states out of most former Soviet republics. Ukraine tried to maintain its neutrality between the west and Russia and largely succeeded until US ran a violent coup in 2014, at which point the legitimate elected government was overthrown.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

You know nothing about Ukraine.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Both my parents were born in Ukraine, but do tell me more.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Last time I checked, the birthplace of parents doesn't qualify you for any domain specific knowledge.

Just as you don't know a thing about the chicken Kiev speech, you lack any deep, actual knowledge of what life in Ukraine is. Or rather was before 2013.

And yeah, the whole quora post you link to is laughable - how much things does it get wrong.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

You're right, it's the time I've spent learning about the subject that qualifies me to speak on the subject and how I know you're full of shit.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You evade answering questions like debt collectors.

Did you ever read a book on Ukraine's history? Name one?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I love how you keep trying to derail the discussion to make it about me instead of staying on topic of what's being discussed. It's more sophisticated trolling, I'll give you that. Here are a few books for you

  • Грани и рубежи by Гайда Ф. А.
  • Украинский вопрос в Российской империи by Миллер А.
  • Борьба за Украину и битва под Конотопом by Бабулин И. Б.
  • Імперія пам'яті. Російсько - українські стосунки в радянській історичній уяві. by Єкельчик С.
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