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You're close about Putin using a baseless pretense to invade and steal further territory from Ukraine, wrong about the Russian-Ukrainian peacetime relationship, and you haven't mentioned that putin also disarmed Ukraine in a nuclear anti-arms treaty to ensure ukraine couldn't fight back before putin broke the treaty, annexed crimea and then invaded a second time when nobody stood up to him the first time.
But hey, you got the names correct. Mostly.
Two, You're agreeing with me about the IDF because I condemned the Palestinian genocide by the IDF. You, then, ostensibly condemned the Palestinian genocide.
This part might be difficult for you to follow, but if you condemn the same thing I already condemned, you are agreeing with me.
Man I shouldn't make fun of you sorry. Your response is the kind of shit I would have said a couple weeks ago.
You should definitely try making fun of me, at least you're learning something while spouting inaccuracies.
Please, flail more.
Spooky. Its like finding an old journal and cringing at the shit you used to write. Dontvreally have the time and energy r8ght now to go further with this though, if someone else wants to go ahead.
Everybody else already got rocked, you can scuttle off with the rest of them.
God was I this insufferable too?
You are currently pretty rough, yea, if that's what you're wondering.
I see you're making more things up. Hasn't worked out for you before, but it is funny watching you make the same mistake.
I shall do penance within 1 week by gathering the material I had previously found and writing it up or alternatively finding a good overview of the Ukrainian Nazi history starting no later than operation cartel/aerodynamic so that I might help another lib break free from the NATO propaganda. Or at least have a good resource to link against if I ever run into my past self again.
That's a good idea for the benefit of our collective amusement, please try to prove your narrow point that doesn't apply to the original reductive falsity you were pushing.
So excited for that.
Oh man that was a quick find, should have done this weeks ago:
CW: Gruesome pictures of dead women and descriptions of extreme fascist violence
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/07/29/what-the-u-s-government-and-the-new-york-times-have-quietly-agreed-not-to-tell-you-about-ukraine/
Don't wear yourself out patting yourself on the back, flash, it took you 23 hours to post a single extremist website known to promote propaganda complaining about Jews.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/covertaction-magazine-bias/
Not exactly a triumph for you.
its all sourced check for yourself
I read it. I'm not sure what your point is by sharing that goofy crap or how it pertains to my original comment.
What is your point?
"Jews are controlling Ukraine" and "don't trust Jews" based on cherry-picked anecdotes from an extremist website known to spread bigoted disinformation is not as powerful a stance as you think it is.
Good lord what the fuck are you even talking about "jews are controlling ukraine" is not a claim made by the author??? Are you ok? Did you have a stroke?? Good lord I'm thouroughly done here, but at least I have reference material now.
I know you're not much of a reader, but this is the first quote and first sentence in the discredited article you've posted: