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submitted 2 years ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca

TD Bank says home prices could drop as much as 10 per cent on average by early 2024 thanks to a surge in housing supply in some provinces.

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[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

Oh perfect, it's a good thing they didn't almost triple in price over the last 10 years.

[-] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago

House goes from 200k to 700k in 10 years then goes to 630k and were supposed to be happy? This country is a fucking joke.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

All of the countries are a joke my guy, unless you're part of the billionaire club you're just exploitable.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Which country would you rather be in that didn't have a massive increase in housing prices?

[-] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

One with a functional transit system.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

I don’t think you’ll find that

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Plenty of countries have functional transit systems. Why do you say that as if they don't exist? Lol

EDIT: Oops, I missed the comment chain...lmao

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

There’s 2 parts to it

Functional + didn’t see an increase in home prices

Finding both would be difficult

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I missed which comment you replied to. My mistake!

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Judging by your upvotes and my downvotes that is pretty common

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I love when kids whine about how bad things are in Camada but when asked to point to a better example they can't.

Hell, I live in Vancouver and our transit system is world class. Lived as an adult for 20 years here, never needed one. (Finally got one so I could go skiing more easily but even so, I haven't filled up the table since a road trip in August because transit is so damned convenient.)

[-] Numpty@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

Have you EVER traveled anywhere overseas? A simple comparison... Amsterdam vs Vancouver (I've lived in both cities). Vancouver transit is absolutely terrible in comparison, and the Dutch have to deal with swampy ground and water everywhere. Amsterdam has trams, buses, trains (local and long distance), and glorious cycle paths EVERYWHERE. The city is pedestrian friendly too... Vancouver is just a generic typical north American city built for cars and little else.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Oh Amsterdam's cycling infrastructure is second to none. But comparing Amsterdam's transit system to Vancouver's is pretty unfair; Amsterdam has a population density of almost 5,000 people per square km compared to the GVRD's pop density of just over 900/square km. It's sort of like comparing Vancouver's public transit to Hope's.

I am perhaps biased having lived in Ireland where, the transit was abysmal. In my time in Berlin, transit was effective but I wouldn't put it above Vancouver's. Spain/Italy was ridiculous (not in a great way.) Though, all of them (except Ireland) were great at cross country connections for sure.

[-] Numpty@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

OK, Hamburg... Munich... Utrecht... Maastricht... Antwerp... Vienna... Paris... pick a city. Hell, even San Francisco has better transit in the majority of the Bay Area than Vancouver. Basically, what I wanted to point out is Vancouver is NOT world-class.

You don't need trams everywhere, like Amsterdam. Something as basic as proper cycle paths so people don't have to cycle in traffic would be nice.

I get tired of everyone excusing Canada's stupidity because of population density. We have to pay among the highest cellular rates in the world because population density. How about it's due to corruption and lame excuses. We have shitty transit because population density. We pay insane internet rates because population density... on and on. They are excuses. Canad can do better. We (collectively) choose not to.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I get tired of everyone excusing Canada's stupidity because of population density.

This is like me saying "I'm sick of not playing for the Canucks just because I can't really skate backwards, don't have a shot and have trouble receiving passes."

Sorry but we live in the second largest country in the world and one of the least densely populated.

Either the transit will be more expensive (thus defeating the accessible to all goal) be worse or massively subsidized with taxes. Same with cell /internet. Unless you have a magic wand, that's just part of the deal.

[-] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

I don't live in Vancouver. Every part of the province that isn't the GVRD has an abysmal transit system.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

And almost all of the rest of the province is far too spread out for a comparable transit system.

Victoria for its population has a pretty solid one. But if you think about how large even a city like Kelowna is, public transit simply isn't an effective mechanism. It's one of the tradeoffs involved in the cheaper, more room/space rural living.

[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When I was there, Vancouver had a transit system that was more or less on par with large cities I saw later like Tokyo or Bangkok. From what I've heard, much of Europe has usable and non-stigmatized transit, as well as being quite walkable. I can't say the same for other parts of Canada I've been or heard about.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Haven't been to Tokyo but that seems like a wild high bar, I'd be pretty proud!

Toronto also has a really good system (partially because it was so well integrated into city planning back in the day.)

Despite the rural/conservative bent in Calgary, they still had a decent system from my limited time there.

[-] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

Down 10% over 6 months isn't nothing, though -- if that rate continues for ten years prices will almost drop to one-tenth. It took us a long time to get into this situation, it might take a while for us to get out. This isn't a complete solution, but it's a good start.

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