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[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

Hormone active (endokrine) substances are a real problem in ecology in particular in regards towaste water treatment. They often can already take effect on ng/l concentrations.

They are not put there deliberately to turn frogs gay, but they are the result of necessary uses like hormone treatment and unecessary uses like hormonal contraception or use in cosmetics.

I have no doubt that it was presented poorly by Jones and with ulterior motives, but endokrine substances emitted by human activities are a serious issue.

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

unnecessary uses like hormonal contraception

What are the other options?

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Condoms.

With the great side benefits that they also protect against most STDs.

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I take that over no protection against STDs.

Of course you should think about who you have sex with in regards to STDs either way.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Or death. Sorry, we're out of cake.

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Why do you sound like James Mason?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

All sons have James Mason impressions!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’m pro hormonal contraceptives for those who want them, but there are other options like copper IUDs

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I agree that we should be looking for other solutions, but the pill works well and reliably for a lot of people. I think that what you were suggesting, and I would agree with you, is that we ought to be more focused on the potable water issue in general and removing various human contaminants, including hormones from the equation at the water processing plants.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Really my concern with it is the fact that hormone treatments have massive biological effects. Sometimes that’s great, some people take them specifically because of that. Other times it’s unpleasant side effects and they may be better served with a different contraceptive choice.

I think when it comes to water contaminants we should be looking at civil engineering solutions because even without these drugs used in humans it’d be a concern given hormone use in cattle and natural hormone release in urine concentrated for the millions of people in some cities. We need to be further investing in sewage research. It’s not a sexy form of infrastructure like dams, rail systems, or power plants, but it is one of the most significant health advancements our species has ever made and there’s a lot of advancement left to make.

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I agree with you about all of that.

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