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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, Hamas would use an Israeli company to build their secret bunker. That sounds very plausible indeed. Hamas is well-known to be trusting of Israelis.

Edit: I don't even think they bombed the hospital because of a bunker in the first place.

Also, a surprising number of people seem to be taking the word of an ex-Israeli PM as truth around here.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago

Ehud Barak: "No, decades ago, we were running the place... we helped them to build these bunkers."

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Why the fuck people trust anything this liar says is beyond me. He was defense minister during the Gaza war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War_(2008%E2%80%932009)

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That Israel built the bunker that they are claiming justifies them bombing the hospital it was under looks really bad for Israel. Why would he lie about that?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

He's saying Israel built it for Hamas. That's the bullshit part.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, he's saying Israel built it for Israel's purposes. He's claiming that Hamas has been using it (presumably since Israel pulled out of Gaza in '05). But Israel using structures it built as casus belli to blow up a hospital looks really bad on Israel's part.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I think any reason to blow up a hospital makes Israel look bad, but if I misunderstood what he meant, fair enough.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, in Barak's mind he's probably attempting to justify the bombing. In a sane person's eyes it looks really bad.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Maybe that's the problem. The so-called justification just went over my head. Because it's fucking nuts. How many innocent people who were in need of hospital care did they kill? Including children? And then claim it's because Hamas uses human shields...

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

No isreal built it so they'd have an excuse to genocide palestinians by claiming hamas was hiding there.

[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fascinating to read. Did you not read one line of the article that stated that Israel buildt it decades ago when they controlled Gaza?

I'm not saying I belive Israels claims of Hamas using it as a command center but let's at least get the facts straight.

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Most ppl ignore Israel gvt helped in the creation of Hamas

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That doesn't mean they built a bunker for Hamas to use underneath it.

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Isreal said that hamas was using the bunker.

Isreal lies to justify bombing hospitals.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, (probably) not for Hamas... He did straight up say Israel built it and was using it as a command center during his time in office though

This wasn't an accusation, it was a surprising admission during an interview

[-] avater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Also, a surprising number of people seem to be taking the word of an ex-Israeli PM as truth around here.

people will take what serves their agenda...

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And ignore what doesn't serve their agenda.

Cognitive dissonance + cherry picking.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Over the current one...yes

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