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IDF built that bunker in the last uprising.
Just learned this myself.
I've never heard that guy before but he's purposely ignoring things to make the other side seem idiotic, which is not a good faith argument.
You can't say Hamas is not using human shields. They are, they've even bombed some of them and spread disinformation that Israel did it to make Israel look even worse, it was one of their first moves after Oct 7th.
The only valuable bit of the link you posted was the CNN clip from the Israeli guy. I'm only leaving this comment in hopes that people think about the echo chambers they get in. Echo chambers are incredibly powerful and with regards to this conflict, very dangerous. It's an incredibly complex situation with the only innocent parties being the civilians on both sides.
Neither civilian group wants either of the current leaderships in play, but those leaderships are what caused this and are perpetuating it.
That "Israeli guy" is former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
Jayzuz.
Sooooo he's an Israeli guy...
Yeah, you really got me there. And I said that bit was valuable...
Jayzuz.
When did they do that?
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/10/18/u-s-intel-indicates-israel-didnt-bomb-gaza-hospital-00122197#:~:text=A%20day%20after%20a%20horrific,indicates%20Israel%20wasn't%20responsible.
Yeah I guessed you'd say that. The thing is: There's other data that does suggest Israel did bomb the hospital, but leaving that aside the Israeli story is that a PIJ rocket misfired and hit the hospital. This means it's:
1-Not Hamas, and:
2-Not something they did to make Israel look worse.
You're currently spreading misinformation.
Third party data shows it was Hamas. You can't just say no.
No the third party, not even Israeli, story is.
It literally couldn't have been Israeli and it was Hamas or some other local area bombing, which means it couldn't have been Israel.
No? As I just said, the Israeli (and consensus) position is that a PIJ missile misfired. It wasn't Hamas and it wasn't a false flag operation, as you claim.
Also here's some third party data.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVQALHmgo8U
Here's some more data, the consensus, as of yesterday, is that rocket came from Gaza. The French confirmed it too, your video is also old (and from the height of the disinformation campaign)
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-hospital-rocket-gaza-8bc239d2efe0cff3998b2154d9220a83
You've also yet to back up the claim that Israel has that position at all, or that the general consensus from the intelligence community agrees with you either.
You can't just say no.
Holy shit! That's freaking crazy!