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[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you read what I wrote?

Edit: efuel is net-zero.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

My understanding was you meant we should keep petrol cars but replace gasoline with a synthetic efuel. If that is correct then my rebuff is still my response. If my understanding is incorrect please elaborate.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems you don't understand that efuel is net zero. When it comes to efuel, it doesn't make sense to argue with someone who doesn't understand that part. So, I stop engaging with you here.

Anyway, I meant that EV manufacturing process has too many ways to cheat, while in case of efuel the regulations only have to happen at the factory to achieve net zero.

That's all I have to say. And that's a fact, whatever you say.

[-] haventbeenlistening@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Even under ideal conditions, efuels are still very energy intensive. It's also interesting that the biggest advocates for efuel adoption are oil companies.

Critics highlight that manufacturing e-fuels is very expensive and energy-intensive. Using e-fuels in an ICE car requires about five times more renewable electricity than running a battery-electric vehicle, according to a 2021 paper in the Nature Climate Change journal.

Some policymakers also argue that e-fuels should be reserved for hard-to-decarbonise sectors such as shipping and aviation - which, unlike passenger cars, cannot easily run on electric batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/what-are-e-fuels-can-they-help-make-cars-co2-free-2023-03-07/

You also should try to elaborate on what it means to "cheat" because it sounds like you are just making up a Boogeyman after listening to too much Fox News.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As I reiterate again and again, I don't care about energy efficiency. I'm talking about the difficulty with regulating EV manufacturing to actually achieve net zero. You say I made it up, but can you say so at least after reading the very OP post that you're commenting in? Because it's written there, if I'm not mistaken.

And I'm no FOX listener or whatever. You should realize how much assumptions you made about me, and how that annoys me.

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