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The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Put yourself in Hamas miltant shoe. Mostly now had lost family members, living since born in a prison, you cannot go to sea, or cross to Egypt or even other part of the country.

What do you think Winning means for them ?

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I guess for me it would mean to have at least some of my family members survive instead of dying pointlessly

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They're going to die pointlessly regardless of what they do. While I disagree with what they're doing. I can't exactly fault them for feeling powerless and lashing out. When people have nothing to lose. They don't care how much anyone else loses either. And the Israeli government has the largest part of the blame on this. They helped Hamas come to power and use them extensively to justify their genocide. They don't want Hamas to stop.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I think we should totally fault them for committing acts of terrorism. It does nothing to advance their cause.

While the Israeli government has fucked up, too, they are the one of the two parties that historically at least tried to negotiate a compromise.

I don't believe for a second that they want the terror to continue, they're not comic book villains. You're selling your opinion as facts.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Netanyahu's own cabinet has literally said on video that Hamas is an asset to them. Those are the facts. Netanyahu and his ministers have also done a lot to help Hamas as well. Mind you, I'm not defending Hamas. Fuck hamas. Palestine is not Hamas however. Most the people living in Gaza never voted for Hamas. And don't support Hamas. And would love to get rid of Hamas. But they don't have the power to. The people that have the power to would rather come in and slaughter innocent citizens of Gaza under pretense of going after Hamas. Creating more Hamas and the process rather than actually getting rid of Hamas. These are the facts. Netanyahu's government's actions are indefensible.

When the so-called rescue response has killed multiple times more than the initial terror attack. It is a terror attack in its own right.

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