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before they were defederated by beehaw due to trolling issues, thenthedonlald showed up, and now exploding heads? what is happening right now?

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[-] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

have you considered using an instance that more closely aligns with your views?

This sounds like a lot of homework. I want to interact with people, not worry about whether my chosen server is and will remain acceptable to every clique.

[-] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

One other late thought on this. Lemmy advocates like this one have told me that “It doesn't matter which instance you use. You'll still be able to interact with communities (subreddits) on all other instances, regardless of which instance your account lives.” Doesn’t defederation prevent interaction between two instances, making the above statement false?

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it would be harmful if defederation became commonplace and fragment the fediverse. On the other hand, I don't see any issue with there being "niche" instances which have a specific demographic of users they want to serve, and I don't see any harm in them defederating with other niche instances. Lemmygrad and exploding heads seem like a good example, I've heard they've defederated each other. I don't think that affects the overall fediverse too much because the users of those instances would probably block or brigade the other instance anyway. There wouldn't be any positive interaction between them, so nothing of value has been lost.

Basically, I think it would be ideal if it's only the "niche" instances that use defederation as a moderation tool, and most instances only defederate for spam or illegal content.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

So you're saying that decentralization would be bad for an intentionally decentralized platform? 🤔

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Decentralization good. Fragmentation bad.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah so you want communities to be centralized on major instances that all communicate with each other in unity... So you want Reddit.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

No, I clearly said I prefer decentralization. Are you intentionally misinterpreting my posts? I'm getting the sense got aren't participating in these discussions in good faith.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well you don't understand decentralization if you want big instances instead of tons of small instances and if you don't want defederation to happen. Isolation also protects each instance from becoming the same.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't say I prefer a few big instances over many smaller instances. I said I'd prefer if most instances didn't defederate with other instances, except for spam and illegal content.

In going to stop interacting with you now, because I'm almost certain you are not acting in good faith.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Defederation doesn't prevent you from subscribing to the instance that defederated yours, you'll only be able to interact with people from your own instance when checking content over there.

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

small and private instances are the key

[-] Relected@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

it only applies when you use your own instance or an instance you can control

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It only takes a little bit of homework. When I made the jump I was able to find out pretty easily that beehaw wouldn't be right for me because of their views that moderators should be heavily involved.

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