@MysticKetchup A not-insignificant chunk of this problem is the fact that all of those decks are powered primarily *from* Standard, or at least would-be-Standard-if-not-Banned-ard *cough* Fable *cough*. MH2 doesn't help what with the Beans deck but 5C Beans still plays cards from current Standard to facilitate major parts of the engine (Binding and Beans itself).

So I dunno. I just find the idea of having a format where the fun ideas of Commander deck cards can run free without FoW sometimes.

@MysticKetchup @SteveHeist standard has issues when power creep is strong, as other formats resemble it too much. Control power creep better and that isn't such a problem.