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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago

The people in the hospital can't do anything about what Hamas does and doesn't do, as unfortunately within Gaza they can do whatever they want because they have the guns. Hamas committing war crimes doesn't justify committing your own war crimes.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

Of course many of those people can’t help that Hamas is set up there.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that places like hospitals can go from protected to valid targets when militaries start fighting out of it.

That’s exactly what Israel said was happening which was doubted by many in the fediverse and other lefty spaces (I count myself as a lefty for whatever that’s worth). Now we have receipts.

Hamas is fully responsible for the endangering those people.

If there’s ever another election there hopefully people remember this and don’t elect them again.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

A hospital (in operation) is never a valid target. Even if Hamas fighters are in there. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You’re wrong.

Legitimate military targets include: armed forces and persons who take part in the fighting; positions or installations occupied by armed forces as well as objectives that are directly contested in battle; military installations such as barracks, war ministries, munitions or fuel dumps, storage yards for vehicles, airfields, rocket launch ramps, and naval bases.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090925191155/http://www.crimesofwar.org/thebook/legit-military-target.html

Hamas put those people and babies in danger when they set up barracks and munitions there.

You don’t get to just shoot shit out of a hospital and expect the opposing force to sit there with their thumb up their ass.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

I'll remember this next time you're in any kind of hostage situation. I'll tell the cops to fire away, you're obviously cool with it.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is not a hostage situation. It’s a war.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And what do you suppose the doctors and immobile patients and anyone else stuck in the hospital do? Kindly ask Hamas to leave? They're stuck, and for all intents and purposes are hostages of Hamas, as basically everyone in the Gaza strip has been for decades because they're not allowed to leave.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago

That's true, that's why IDF is so reckless with their bombing, completely ignore the safety of the hostage.

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