66
submitted 11 months ago by dumples@kbin.social to c/mensliberation@lemmy.ca

Harping on people to get married from up in the ivory tower fails to engage with reality of life in the dating trenches.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] dumples@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

The current assumptions and expectations that society has about monogamy and commitment are insane. The idea that one person should meet all of your social, relationship and sexual needs is insane. Especially for those people who consider being attracted / look at other people / looking at porn to someone else as cheating. Like you don't stop feeling physical attraction or even get crushes if you are committed. You just don't do anything that violate other peoples trust.

The queer communities take on monogamy and commitment that does have any assumptions is really the best method going forward. Not to mention the removal of gender expectations for house work etc. Its exactly like you described it. An on-going discussion about what your commitment means and what is and isn't allowed. It priories the relationship over everything else.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

I think one of the biggest issues everyone glosses over is .... we change during our lifetimes.

We are not the same person in our 20s, our 30s, our 40s for all kinds of reasons ... our work, our situations, events in our lives, trauma, biological changes, genetics or just psychological changes. Some people stay the same sexually and stay the same throughout their lives, whether its being straight, bi, gay or anything else ... I know some people who changed over time from being straight, to bi, to gay or to just asexual ... in one way to another. I'm sure everyone know people like this. It's human nature, most people are not born a simple being that stays the same forever, we evolve and change sometimes because we want to, we have to and other times against our will and biology.

So to have an ever changing pair of people living together ... we should not expect them to stay the same forever and want to be together indefinitely.

But the inverse is also true too ... maybe the two 20 year olds accept one another but change when they're 30 ... and now the 30 year olds now accept each other at this age ... and on and on.

[-] dumples@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Exactly. People and relationships should change and mature. We should also look at different measures of success. A couple of was married for 15 years and then got a divorce but don't hate each other. That is a successful relationship but it didn't last an entire lifetime

this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
66 points (100.0% liked)

Men's Liberation

1838 readers
10 users here now

This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.


Rules

Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people


Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.



Be productive


Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people's efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed.

Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting:

  • Build upon the OP
  • Discuss concepts rather than semantics
  • No low effort comments
  • No personal attacks


Assume good faith


Do not call other submitters' personal experiences into question.



No bigotry


Slurs, hate speech, and negative stereotyping towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated.



No brigading


Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues.



Recommended Reading

Related Communities

!feminism@beehaw.org
!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS