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Crash reporting
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it's a swole doge vs cheems meme
on swole doge side, there are two popups: kCrash and Ubuntu apport. Both have options to see detailed logs and an optional button to send report to developers, along with options to close the popup.
accompanied is a text that reads "Here's the information. What do you wish to do?"
on crying cheems side, there's popup for windows and mac. windows has just a cancel button with report being sent already. mac has ignore and report button. there is no option to see logs without reporting on both. here, accompanied text reads, "let's add this to the personally identifiable information we have on you."
I'd love to switch to linux. But I love the video games, and I'm a pirate, because I'm broke. Until Linux gets real support for games, I can't join.
Dual boot or vm or use proton. The steam deck uses Linux and uses proton. I haven't had a game not run smoothly while using proton either.
I tried dual booting for a while but eventually I just stopped using the Linux side. Didn't really have a reason to switch over when everything worked fine on Windows. Id just keep using windows after I used whatever software or game only worked on windows cause it was just more convenient. I did really like Linux and there were a lot of really cool things about it but until Linux reaches a point where all the big games, both on and off steam, work on Linux without having to follow some guide I just don't think it's for me.
@WarlordSdocy @ExperimentalGuy
I have the same and opposite issue.
Part of the reason that I am always using #linux is because so much of my workflow these days requires Linux, that when I play something like a #bethesda game (modding them is just less of a hassle on Windows) it just feels wrong and uncomfortable.
just asking have you tried teamtinkerlaunch with that mo2 and vortex work fine on linux i even get better performance with proton and it fixes my sound issues i had with skyrim on windows and you can do a windll override to fix the wanky mouse movements
@nogrub
No, I'll have to check it out, thanks for the tip.
Exact same thing here. Once I needed to reboot multiple times per day to use my computer I’m just angry and unhappy with the tool that’s no longer doing the job I need it to.
Since the games I play are primarily windows only, I stuck with the side I spend most of my time in.
Ya that makes sense. I find a lot of my work is mostly stuff that's easier to use on Linux, like spinning up VMs or just programming in general. What programs do you use that aren't compatible or dont have an alternative on Linux?
It was mostly games (mainly Microsoft ones, no surprise there) and the fact that at the time I was going to college for game programming, so needed to use stuff like Unity and Unreal Engine. Which I think I saw with Unreal Engine you can make it work on Linux but you had to like compile it yourself and I didn't want to deal with running into problems with that since I was using it for my classes. Although now that I've graduated I might give it a try, see if anything has changed since I last gave Linux a shot. Just seems like in general a lot of game development stuff is done more on Windows unless you're not using a commercial engine.
Omg yeah that makes sense. I have the same thing but with excel, one of my classes it's like a must have so I just pop open a VM to get it running bc I don't want to figure out how to wine it. I'm using PopOS rn and it's really easy to use and install drivers, so if you're gonna get back into a Linux distro I'd def recommend that.
Pop Os was actually what I used before funnily enough and yeah I found it really nice. Probably will try that again when I get the chance.
Knowing that steamdeck uses Linux does give me hope. I'm rocking a 3080ti though, how's that Nvidia support coming along these days?
Next build will likely be AMD, but unfortunately I build PCs to last.
My first PC had dual 660s SLI, which was over 16 years ago and can still handle most AAA games. Baldurs Gate 3 was the first to make it run in low graphics.
My second PC was built when the 1080ti came out and that's still running my VR room.
This PC I just built is similarly designed to last upwards of a decade, and still will be a contender after that. So maybe another 7 to 10 years before I build a Linux PC .
I'm old enough to remember when wine came out and how excited everyone was we were finally going to have games in Linux lol.
Nvidia support's pretty good honestly from my experience. I have a 2000s series in my computer rn and I haven't run into any issues honestly
Seriously? Hmmmmm well I guess we'll try linux for the umpteenth time again. I'm seeing some new program names and processes here since last time I tried, so who knows? It may actually be up to the task for my day to day. That'd be nice, I'm not a fan of cloud based Operating systems. I bought my hardware, I like to own it, not give it to whatever software corp is installed on it.
so I decided to try linux. After reading a bit I decided that Fedora sounded like the distro for me with the top 'spin'.
Black screen. Not Nvidea compatible out of the box. Booted into 'basic graphics'. Looks like total ass on 800x600. Tried to follow a tutorial to get it running, but it didn't want to make changes to the USB version and wanted me to full boot. I didn't want to full wipe my windows just yet, but we're getting there. Found a tutorial about using some semi-auto process to do it, so wish me luck.
I bet this goes like last time though, given that I already can't even run Linux out of the goddamn box on what is one of the most popular graphics card series ever. I bet I get frustrated trying to make half my shit work like an xbox controller because nothing, and I repeat nothing on this trash OS works without some level of headache.
For giggles I tried nobara linux which bills itself as a fully configured gaming version of fedora. Unsurprisingly it had a kernel error when booting from USB off the rip lol.
"Few and far issues between" = completely doesn't work at all on the what is arguably the top linux distro today, sounds about right.
Sounds like you've been very unlucky. Even the open-source Nvidia driver should work out of the box and look OK. Performance is ass, but it's good enough for a usable desktop experience (usable enough to install the proprietary nVidia driver, which at least on Ubuntu's are just a few clicks in the GUI)
Instead of going Fedora, try PopOS. PopOS has a special ISO for nVidia graphics. Trying to "install" the Nvidia driver yourself on a live USB boot is not the way to go. I doubt it's even possible.
I've been on (K)Ubuntu, and XBox controllers have literally just been plug and play. I could even use the KDE game controller settings page to compensate for the drift in my left joystick.
Another option is Bazzite, which is a version of Fedora Immutable ("Silverblue") that comes with all the bells and whistles for gaming, including Nvidia drivers. However the immutable part may or may not be to your taste.
Second this. System76 themselves sell multiple machines with Nvidia cards, so they have at least some incentive to make it work.
I see Fedora recommended quite a bit, but setting it up on my younger family member’s laptop was bot exactly simple, and setting up his game library proved near impossible.
PopOS just worked. I try not to be too pushy about Linux, but as someone who was pushed into (and now loves) using Linux, I’d suggest giving it one more shot. (I still dual-boot: keep a small Windows partition for the occasional need).
@dukk @kjetil
Yeah #Fedora is nontrivial when dealing with proprietary drivers. It doesn't just work out of the box. Your best bet if you want to use Fedora and have an easier gaming experience is #Nobara.
I think OP(original commenter?) mentioned they tried Nobara, but it wouldn’t even boot.
My consistent recommendation to Linux newcomers is PopOS, it’s a simple, great distros that can be powerful when needed.
(I myself use Nix btw)
@dukk @zbecker I use arch btw. I would recommend Ubuntu for new users, as it was my first distro. But I don't know whats Ubuntu's current state.
I don’t tend to recommend Ubuntu anymore: mainly because of snaps.
I had a weird start with Linux, using it on my Pi and then eventually just installing NixOS as my first distro. A weird first choice, but honestly it makes even advanced tasks trivial(I can switch my WM/DE in one line!)
@dukk My first Linux experience was with Ubuntu, as my old laptop couldn't handle Windows anymore. Then I also got a RPI but by that time I already bought a better PC and left Linux. After some years tinkering with the rpi I finally became confident enough to dual boot Kubuntu. Now I only have Linux on my computers ( arch in both pc and laptop )
No, this is my Linux experience since I first installed ubuntu in 2005. I've tried at least 5 times to pick up this hot garbage and it ends the same way every time. With admission of defeat and an eventual return to an OS that works, which would be windows or mac.
Yeah it was honestly weird for me too bc I had always heard that you need to go team red if you want to use Linux but i don't know if it's that everyone else is lying or I'm amazing but I'll just assume I'm goated with the sauce
The Nvidia driver has very good performance, and for most usecases it's.... Fine. But it does bring extra hoops and issues. There's a reason many distros have started to ship the "normal ISO" and the "nVidia ISO".
The nVidia driver also uses kernel modules, which can interfere with secure boot.
And many modern features are developed for Wayland-only: Mixed refresh rate, mixed fractional scaling, HDR etc. And nVidia is behind on Wayland support, since they only recently decided to cave on and use the same pipeline as AMD/Intel instead of their own.
i have a 2080 super in my main pc and a 3050 ti in my laptop both work fine
distro?
endevaros with i3 and propaiatory nvidia drivers