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The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has now weighed in on the hospital situation in northern Gaza.

In a statement, it warned that hospitals in the Palestinian enclave have "reached a point of no return", risking the lives of thousands of people.

The ICRC said its staff attempting to deliver medical supplies had witnessed "horrendous" scenes, and described the destruction as "unbearable".

It also highlighted attacks on children's hospitals, including Al-Rantisi, which we've been reporting on today, saying they had "not been spared from violence."

The humanitarian organisation, which is the guardian of the Geneva Conventions, repeated its demand that hospitals and healthcare workers, under international law, must be protected.

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[-] braxy29@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

there's no "applicable life experience" that justifies genocide.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

If it really was genocide, why has the population of Gaza increased by 100% in the last decade? Shouldn't that number go down?

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Since the breakout of the war, it’s gone down by over 10,000, 40% have been innocent women and children.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Couldn't answer the question. War is war, and innocents die, but 5hat doesn't make it genocide.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I literally answered— unless you ignore the killings of innocent women and children,, and it also meets several of the conditions of the UN’s definition of genocide.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

No you didn't. You deflected and didn't answer the question. You can try again. If genocide, how has Palestinian population grown by 100%?

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Once again: since the outbreak of the war, the population has decreased by over 10,000, 40% of which are innocent women and children, and it also meets several of the conditions of the UN’s definition of genocide.

Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean I didn’t give you one.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

But that isn't genocide.

Genocide is the "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group". People die in war. Sad fact. But, that doesn't mean it meets the criteria of genocide.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Only if you ignore the rest of the conditions in the definition:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a. Killing members of the group;

b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, but everybody is a member of a group. Since that is your definition is used that for the rest of your criteria, this doesn't make much sense.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s not my definition, the the UN’s definition— and it makes sense when you don’t ignore the facts, such as the deaths of innocent women and children, which, btw, also make it a war crime.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

The UN can't even say that the Hamas massacre was wrong. China and Russia voted no, but, go ahead and use them if it suits your purpose. It would never make it through criminal court and you dilute a very important word.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

First of all, I gave you facts. Secondly,, i have a long list of nightmares and if you want to invoke my sympathy you best do better than repeat "women and children" ad nausium.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You ignored facts, and I’m not here to appeal to your sympathy. And if you don’t like being reminded of the women and children who’ve been killed, too bad.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

So you dont have much and you'll continue to spout BS. Don't need to spend time with you. See ya.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I’ve backed up my claims with evidence— again, which you continue to ignore. Just like the dead women and children.

And you’ve already spent more than a day arguing in circles about it.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It is.

It is exactly genocide, intent isn't a requirement, it's an enhancement.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Because children without parents fuck a lot. Go figure.

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