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submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

What the fuck are the studios gonna do, make movies and shows without actors?

Highlights: The negotiating committee of the actors’ union, SAG-AFTRA, told its members on Saturday that it had received a “Last, Best and Final Offer” from the major entertainment studios as a strike that has brought much of Hollywood to a standstill continued for a 114th day.

“We are reviewing it and considering our response within the context of the critical issues addressed in our proposals,” the negotiating committee said. They did not say when they would respond to the offer, which came after an hourlong video conference call that included top studio executives.

Included in the offer was a wage increase that could be the highest in four decades, according to a person familiar with the offer who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations. The studios also offered the actors a new way to determine residuals for streaming programs based on performance metrics, and protections on artificial intelligence, including consent and compensation requirements. The studios also offered an increase to the pension and health funds.

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Please help us help the studio executives find a better offer by buying some swag here.

sagaftra.org/official-sag-aftra-strike-swag-available

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Oh look, it’s fake Margot Robbie again

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

You leave our Margot alone!

[-] Syd@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that's the real Margot Robbie, check their post history! It's really cool that Margs is part of the community!!

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

oh yeah, check the post history, some how Margot Robbie is an expert in programming IDEs: https://lemm.ee/comment/5424323

Pretty sure this is some Linux nerd running an elaborate joke. Nothing in Margot Robbie’s bio, or interviews suggest a background or interest in programming.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Knowing the difference between VS and VSCode hardly makes me an expert on IDEs. Even if the subject came up (and it never does), why would I ever brag about having basic knowledge of random subjects on national TV?

Also, if I remember correctly, wasn't there this recent summer blockbuster where the female protagonist defying stereotype and saying something unexpectedly knowledgeable or insightful was a recurring (and somewhat overused) joke?

But some inexplicable reason, I just can't recall the name of that movie, only in theater July 21st.

[-] msage@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Have you ever mentioned Lemmy in any official communication?

Because I would love to see any tangible proof it's the real MR.

I'll wait post strike, no hurry here.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Jokes aren't as funny if you explain them.

When the right time comes, you'll know.

[-] Syd@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well you can see she has a lot of newfound spare time with the strikes, it's possible she just picked it up. It's also possible that she keeps that part of her life private.

Throughout the profile there's tons of proof it's her, she makes references to the strikes and her movies constantly! There's even a picture of herself as the profile pic!!

Just because Margot is an actress doesn't mean she doesn't program, be a little bit open minded. I think it's pretty neat that she's an expert in programming IDE's now, maybe Lemmy is what sparkled her interest to learn!

Edit: Your name is phoneymouse! I looked up the definition of phoney. According to Marian Webster it means "not genuine or real.". I think you're projecting!

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Bro, learn to take a joke.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 15 points 1 year ago
[-] stella@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. Hollywood actors don't need more money.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

That's true for some of them, but not all actors are A-listers

[-] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, even D-list actors don't need more money.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a) the Ulmer scale (A–D) hasn't been used in nearly 15 years, and even then it was out of date

b) panel show and reality TV appearances (The 'D' section of the Ulmer) aren't really the major concern here

Tell me the amount of money you think I got paid for a night shoot for a single ep appearance (not co-star) on BET?

Then tell me how much you think I've earned in residuals from it since?

[-] xhieron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Say more about this? I've seen a few good pieces about acting compensation over the years, but nowhere near as many as I'd have liked.

How much did you get paid, assuming it's not hypothetical? What do panel and reality shows pay? I assume residuals are $0, but I know nothing. What's the real story here?

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

"Guest Star", unnamed character, end roll credits only, 1 ep, about 5 or 6 lines. Just over a grand before fees, about USD$800 after, not factoring year end taxes. No residuals as I wasn't a principal and it wasn't full SAG.

[-] stella@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You got paid $800 for one-night's work and 5 or 6 lines?

And still complaining? Lol. Get a grip.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1 nights work on set (i think i got there at 6pm and ended up being wrapped about 8am), but you only work once every couple of months AND you're not counting auditions, wardrobe/fitting call, driving, So it was actually $800 for about 30 hours work (again before tax). Are you telling me that working for $25/hour gross for an overnight shift once, a few times a year is a big privilege?

Both me and my wife are actors. I do more stage, she does more commercials. We both have day jobs - mine is corporate and I either kill myself working 100 hour weeks or use my PTO when I get cast, hers is education and so just has to turn down gigs if they clash with her work.

Not to mention

  • new headshots every year
  • at least one training program every year
  • actors access, backstage
  • above platforms also have separate fees for reels - of which there are dramatic, commercial, voice and specialist reels (eg skinsuit, circus skills, music, vocals, accents, cartoons...)
  • regular calls with agents and managers
  • networking
  • participating in the community (going to the theatre, short film fests, comedy nights, open mics, monologue slams).

I also sit on the board of three theatre companies (unpaid) and judge a few festivals (paid in free tickets to the shows I'm judging and sometimes a dinner).

If you're making less than $25/hour and working less than a few times a year, so that you can call me privileged I'd be incredibly surprised.

[-] stella@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't get it. You got paid $25/hour for your work and you're still complaining, why? Because it's a gig?

Why should your gigs pay more when you can do something else useful for society while you're not getting gigs?

I'm sorry if you think your list matters at all. All it does is show me the disconnect people like you have with those who work significantly harder than you for significantly less. I think they should get paid more before you do.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Because it's not very good pay in return for a) what you have to give for it and b) more importantly — what studios get for it.

[-] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree with your point A.

On point B, studios should get less. It's not that actors should make more.

This means cheaper products for audiences and more money they can spend on other things (not extra profits for studios.)

Heck, some of that money could even go towards those who work harder than you for less!

[-] detectivesniffles@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

why should these workers not negotiate for better earnings because other workers in other fields work harder for less? it comes across as just silly rationalizations for the crux of the issue which is that you simply don't respect the work actors put in

[-] stella@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

that you simply don’t respect the work actors put in

Wrong. I don't respect passing a bunch of money around at the top.

If there are people who work significantly harder than you for less money, you don't need more. The guy I was replying to mentioned how much studios make vs. actors. I replied by saying the solution is for studios to make less, not for actors to make more.

Of course, if you're indoctrinated to believe everyone 'needs' more money except billionaires, then nothing I say is going to make sense. You need to learn what the word 'need' means first.

[-] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How much did you get paid for 1 night of being in front of a camera?

Also, I don't really care about the specific ulmer scale. It's a good tool to discuss the popularity of actors, you can replace D-list with E, F, G, etc etc. until the point makes sense to you.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

I mean you were the one who used it, so if you don't care about how popular an actor is, why do you think they should get paid less?

Lets even the field: What work do you do, and why should you get a pay cut starting tomorrow?

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