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It would be crazy if you had basic empathy for the almost 4,000 Palestinian children killed
The fact that you're citing Gaza having a coastline as evidence that it's not an open-air prison, without mentioning that Isreal controls those waters and does not allow Palestinian use of them (aside from small-scale fishing) tell me that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Educate yourself before telling people to educate themselves. You're spouting bullshit and look a fool.
Ok, so you're not saying Gaza isn't an open-air prison, you're just defending why it should be one. Cool.
Tell me what Israeli news do you watch? I personally watch i24 and regularly keep up with Israeli politics. Do you even know what Kahanism is, who Ben Gavir is, or why so many people (myself included) despise the far right crime minister BB?
I'm not simply an American who decided to take interest in Israel, I'm Jewish and regularly speak to Israelis. I have heard them openly talking about how civilian deaths are justified and how killing Arabs is ok. Nearly every day I have to suffer through their horrific propaganda. I understand I have everything to gain yet I refuse to gain from the suffering of 9,000 civilian deaths.
You aren't wrong, but I can tell you're smart enough to make your point without rule 3 ad hominem attacks.
What a load of horse shit lmao.
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Abandoned by the world?! Are you completely removed from reality?
The Likud Party hat that phrase in it's founding charter: "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."
Yes, it was used earlier by the PLO but back then the meaning was more like "take back what was ours". It was not against the jews, they were there before the founding of Israel. It was against the forced taking of land by creating the state of Israel.
Extremist forces took it further, especially Hamas. But by then the sitation was already complicated enough for an easy solution...
I am not your enemy, I'm taking part in a discussion. Also this is my first post in this thread, stop talking like I personally offended you.
I explicitly wrote about the state of Israel and not the Jewish people. So the timeframe of my argument the founding of Israel and the decades after that. Jewish europeans settled there since the end of the 19th century, and for almost half a century it worked. The phrase started being used after that.
Surprise: It's not. They're giving them less than the amount they need not to starve.
Their military occupiers, Israel. Or maybe the people blockading them and actually controlling how much aid goes in and how much they can import (with their meagre economy since they're not allowed to export their goods), which is also Israel. Maybe the people who actually created the current situation and actively worked to maintain it so Palestinians can't have peace—you guessed it, Israel.
Egypt also could provide help, but for some "strange reason" they do not want. All the countries that cheered on October 7th and supposedly support Palestine, won't provide any help beyond weapons. They don't give damn, their goal is to kill Jews, and if Palestinians die in the process, hey that's "even better".
How about this: It’s solely unrwas responsibility, but anyone who specifically bombs unrwa resources has to take over fully?
How about this. It's the responsibility of the government in charge, Hamas to consider the feeding and care of it's citizens as a part of its war plan with its neighbors.
Given that the plans that government arranged for are being thwarted by Israel, it seems they are taking steps to reassert their ability to feed their people. I don’t think that’s the best solution here, that Hamas keeps attacking Israel, so I’m looking elsewhere. If you’re content with the way Hamas handles things, by all means, leave them with no humanitarian support or other options.
In normal warfare. When a siege shows that it's has the ability to starve the populace if continued; it's the duty of the seiged to surrender before their population starts to starve.
Or to try to escalate. Which do you honestly think Hamas will do?
Honestly, they're dying. Israel estimates they've killed 1/4th of their Army. And based on the things that they're trying to smuggle in it (oxygen equipment) seems like they might have a significant amount of their forces stuck underground, caved in.
Aside for some areas in North Gaza, Israel doesn't occupy the Gaza Strip, and hasn't for decades.
Then why is the Gaza strip considered to be occupied by the UN?
1 nation one vote combine with a European history of hating Jews and Gypsies.
That's... well... an original opinion, at least.
Is it? Have you ever asked a European about their opinions on Jews and Gypsies? I'd make a KKK member blush.
I know that, but assuming that influence somehow makes it all the way to the UN is tenuous at best. You're gonna need proof for that. Also, European countries are 44 out of a total of 193, so even if somehow they were all ruled by antisemites, that's not nearly enough to make the whole UN antisemitic.
The UN is one of the least biased entities in the world, so if you think they're biased, there's a good chance you're the one being biased.
44 European nations plus 56 Islamic nations is essentially a majority.
I'm what way? The UN has confirmed Israel more than every other thing that has happened on the planet combine. How is that not bias?
There's an additional 56 Islamic nations. Combine with the Cold War nations on the Soviet side that still vote with them.
The Old World loves to hate Jews.
All aid has to be approved and funneled through Israel. Remember the freedom floatilla?
Well it's kind of their responsibility, since you ask, since they're completely blockading them. Otherwise it's undeniably genocidal mass starvation.
Removed for rule three. You can disagree without ad hominem attacks.