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Israel’s military has claimed it has encircled Gaza City and divided the besieged coastal strip into two, as Gaza came under its third total communications outage since the start of the war.

“Today, there is north Gaza and south Gaza,” Israeli army spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters on Sunday, calling it a “significant stage” in Israel’s war against Hamas.

Israeli media reported that troops are expected to enter Gaza City within 48 hours. Strong explosions were seen in northern Gaza after nightfall.

But the “collapse in connectivity” across Gaza reported by internet access advocacy group NetBlocks.org and confirmed by the Palestinian telecom company Paltel made it even more complicated to convey details of the new stage of the military offensive.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 27 points 1 year ago

Very roughly, of the 778,000 residents of Gaza about 10,000 have died and almost half have been forced to leave their homes. Even if the statement were true, it would not be worth it.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 26 points 1 year ago

It's almost like the government calling them subhuman beasts isn't concerned about genociding civilians over a land grab.

[-] pingveno@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

That's the population of urban areas only. The population of Gaza Strip is a little over 2 million. Obviously that doesn't make the casualties any better, but I always like to work with accurate facts.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

the 778,000 residents of Gaza about 10,000 have died

(According to Hamas)

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

They released a named list back when it was 7000. Like with full names and national IDs. They're telling the truth on this one.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago
[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

If I was some terrorist dickhead working for Hamas I'd just collate every death which happened from any cause within Gaza and report them as conflict related. Killed by Hamas, killed by Israel, slipped and fell, dead of cancer? Whatever. Just collect all of them.

I don't know how they're fudging the numbers, but it would beggar belief that they aren't. They control the health ministry, they've got all the tools they need to inflate the total as much as they want to.

[-] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

You sound a lot like the covid death toll deniers with that “logic”

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Bro the US government is far more credible than Hamas, and anyone who has a legitimate grasp on reality would agree

[-] dlatch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel itself has said they dropped something like 6000 bombs in the first week. Imagine that number, and then realize Gaza is one of the most populated areas in the world (like pretty much a city all the way through), how would that number of deaths be anything but realistic? Just think about what would happen if they dropped 6000 bombs in Manhatten, how many deaths do you think there would be? If anything, 9000 sounds of the low side.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

If I was some terrorist dickhead working for Hamas I’d just collate every death which happened from any cause within Gaza and report them as conflict related.

Then we'd have seen bigger numbers. Gaza has 2.2 million people, and they're currently starving and drinking brackish water.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Wow that's a lot of people dying of natural causes everyday in Gaza.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of people in Gaza, so, yeah

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Gravity is the number 1 killer in the world.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

About 150,000 people die every day world wide out of 8.1 billion. If you assume the same ratio for gaza's 2 million then that would result is approximately 37 deaths per day.

Take into account approximately 30 days of conflict at 37 natural deaths per day that would be around 1100 deaths.

So one can assume that even if they blamed every death of those 10,000 on Israel, at least 8900 probably were.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 19 points 1 year ago

I really hope you're just too stupid to realize this as genocide denial instead of malicious.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

At least the Gaza Health Ministry is counting, while Israel just seems to fire and forget.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Gaza Health Ministry

(Hamas)

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