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[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago

Hyperbole and hypotheticals aren't "making up statistics"

[-] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

It doesn't seem like this post was meant to be hyperbolic though? Hyperbole doesn't work well in the context of numbers. If someone said 1 in 100 people drive a Toyota, how would I differentiate that from being an actual figure or hyperbole? It's not obvious unless you look into it. Likewise, if someone told me that 1 in 400 people in the US get shot every day I'd struggle to tell if that's true or not, given how much I hear about gun crime over there.

This post is quite clearly framed in a way that sounds like fact.

[-] GrapesOfAss@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Im pretty sure those users a legitimately, unironically autistic.

Not being abelist, just trying to prevent others from taking this argument for more than it is: someone incapable of thinking outside explicit literals.

[-] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

Lol fair enough, I can understand why you'd think that.

I'm quite capable of thinking figuratively. But in the way that this post is framed, I'm pretty sure any layperson would take the figures as being based on some actual statistics. It's deceptive, and I don't think that's a good look if anyone were to look into this in any detail. If you're going to make an analogy, make it actually analogous. And if you want to use hyperbole, use it in a way that's clear (i.e. by not mixing in numbers)

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not how autism works, and saying you're not being ableist doesn't actually mean you're not being ableist, as you've demonstrated here.

(and before you even try, because I'm not coming back to debate this, I am autistic, and those assholes are just being deliberately obtuse and pedantic, throwing autistic people under the bus to defend them is gross. And if you are autistic too and think that means you can't be ableist, let me introduce you to lateral and internalised ableism which are what your reply would be if not "run of the mill" ableism)..

[-] GrapesOfAss@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

now how autism works

I have aspergers, I was in special ed for two years in elementary school because I was disruptive to class. I have met hundreds if others on the spectrum in my life.

I can tell you that this is exactly how many people with autism approach situations.

[-] OmegaMouse@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

What makes you say myself and the other poster are being 'deliberately obtuse and pedantic'? It's pretty hurtful and that is not my intention in the slightest. I'm not trying to undermine the argument made by the post, I just think it's a valid concern when the figures don't add up and it's worth discussing.