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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I don't have experience with any of those, YouTube is still ad free for me luckily, but how plausible would a completely peer hosted video streaming service be? Like TOR based or something like that where it's the collective of all the users hosting.

[-] DarkenLM@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Realistically? Virtually impossible. Youtube handles petabytes of data daily, and just the storage capacity would burn the money of everyone but the big corporations. There simply isn't a way to compete with a corporation that can afford to throw millions at a machine that doesn't make profit enough to cover those massive costs.

[-] jadero@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

You're considering only the prospect of doing things the YouTube way, as a service owned and operated by a single entity. As my dad was known to say "there is more than one way to skin a cat." Who knows whether that is literally true, but the metaphor has proven accurate every time someone finds a different, often better, way to do something.

[-] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

It's not just plausible, it already exists. See joinpeertube.org . There are more than 1000 instances already. Just need more content creators (some are already dual-posting, or migrated entirely).

There's also LBRY, but it operates on some goofy-ass crypto scheme, so I assume it will fail.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Dope, I'll check it out, although it might be slow growth right now, YouTube for a lot of people like me is hard to break. I've got years and years of saved videos, subscriptions, watch history, etc.

[-] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

True, but you are here, instead of reddit. It's possible.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That kind of goes more to my point though, Reddit got to the point where there was nothing to lose by leaving, YouTube is headed there, but not yet.

[-] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I 100% agree. Right now, people are just kind of mildly irritated. My irritation is more than mild, hence my leaving entirely.

I'm just speculating now, but it's possible that the Google anti-trust might result in YouTube spinning off again. If they also see that coming, they might be trying to backstop it while they still have time and resources to try things (cutting off adblockers, increasing premium fees, they already changed how rev-sharing eligibility and payouts work, etc).

There's a high chance that they're going to make the wrong move and piss everyone off, or people will just stop putting up with 2 minutes of unskippable ads before, then again during, then after each video. Content will start getting pirated en masse, advertiserzers will drop (or pay less, or force even more ads to compensate, which is what already happened), and the cycle will continue and get worse until the service just collapses under it's own weight.

Something will take it's place. Probably multiple things. I just hope federated services are among them. Hell, people adopted Crypto ferociously, which was extremely expensive and completely useless. Even if federated video is expensive, at least it does something.

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