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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Russia getting stomped by a much smaller and normally less well equipped army.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

If you listen to Russian cope, I'm sure this was all part of their glorious plan.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Or you can listen to U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin retired after 20 years of service, including eight years as an armor officer with four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and 12 years working as a modeling and simulations officer in NATO and U.S. Army concept development and experimentation. This included a tour with the U.S. Army Sustainment Battle Lab, where he led the experimentation scenario team.

https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Anybody with a functioning brain can look back at what happened over the past year and a half and figure out which analysts actually have a clue.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. That's why I'm so confused why you think everything is going as Russia intended.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Do elaborate on what it is you're confused by. Russian strategy has been destruction of Ukrainian army through attrition. Being a much bigger country with a big industrial base, this is the most sensible strategy for Russia.

Russia spent around 9 months making sophisticated layered defences over the past year while massively expanding the army. Ukraine was then forced to use human wave tactics to attack these defences by their western partners to try and show visible territory gains for continued support. This offensive failed miserably resulting in the loss of large portions of the equipment the west managed to cobble together, as well as trained and experienced soldiers. Russia actually ended up gaining more ground during this offensive than Ukraine did.

Now, Ukraine is out of weapons and manpower, and Russia is starting an offensive of their own having recruited over 300k new troops who have been trained and equipped during this time.

On the other hand, western powers are now admitting that they're not able to keep up with the rate of use ammunition, and Ukraine is now actively drafting women in to the military. Furthermore, many western economies are going into a recession, while Russian economy is showing growth and increase in military production.

On top of all that, we're now seeing the war in Palestine unfold which necessarily means that Ukraine will get even less support from the west.

Seems to me that this is precisely what U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin predicted would happen in his article that's linked above.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Russian strategy has been destruction of Ukrainian army through attrition.

Their strategy was a lightning fast toppling of the government within a week with little to no resistance, such as they saw in Crimea.

Russia is also facing dire manpower issues. With too much drafting from Moscow, Putin's power is in danger. In fact, Ukraine is betting on these manpower shortages to attrit down to the point where the line becomes untenable. See here: https://youtu.be/lebWSl49R0c https://youtu.be/CqmQPev1Gvg

Gasa is certainly an issue, but with higher artillery production, linked bills, and diverted media attention, it has upsides for Ukraine too. https://youtu.be/tg7aw3T3nzg

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Their strategy was a lightning fast toppling of the government within a week with little to no resistance, such as they saw in Crimea.

Nowhere has Russia said anything of the sort, but you must know something nobody else does apparently. Russia certainly did get Ukraine to negotiate early on, but the west forced Ukraine to break off these negotiations bringing us to where we are today.

Russia is also facing dire manpower issues.

It's absolutely incredible that people still believe this stuff after a year and a half of it being proven wrong. You must be one of those geniuses who thinks China's about to collapse as well.

Gasa is certainly an issue, but with higher artillery production, linked bills, and diverted media attention, it has upsides for Ukraine too.

It's incredible what people end up believing when they just guzzle propaganda on youtube.

In any case, there's absolutely no point arguing with you since it's pretty clear that you live in a fantasy world. By next year even people such as yourself will have to start grappling with what's happening in the real world though.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Russia said anything of the sort

You take their words at face value? It's from their actions and game theory of the situation. https://youtu.be/pBwT-5z9R5A

Did you watch the vid?

Did you watch the vid? It's a game theory and international relations teacher talking about their area of expertise. I'm guessing anything that disagrees with Russia though is propaganda for you.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You take their words at face value? It’s from their actions and game theory of the situation.

They've stated their objectives pretty clearly. Why would I take words of some random youtube troll over the official position?

It’s a game theory and international relations teacher talking about their area of expertise. I’m guessing anything that disagrees with Russia though is propaganda for you.

The narrative this game theory and international relations teacher is feeding you is at odds with the reality we observe. The fact is that plenty of western experts such as Mearsheimer clearly explain what's happening, and their claims have actually been supported by what's observed https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine

Here's how things are actually going with now as reported by mainstream Spanish media https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-10-29/russia-halts-ukrainian-offensive-and-goes-on-the-attack.html

This is the real world as opposed to deranged fantasy wonderland you inhabit listening to your game theory and international relations teacher.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Whether the attack is a good thing or a bad thing depends on the casualty and material ratio vs the objectives taken. Which a game theory approach is much better for analyzing than just saying that Russia or Ukraine is gaining ground.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I never made the argument about gaining ground anywhere. What I said was that Russia's strategy is to grind down Ukrainian army through attrition. The game theory approach for analyzing this needs to account for the fact that Russia has a vastly larger population and massive industrial capacity that Russia inherited from USSR that the west is admitting is not able to match right now.

Also, every credible source such as BBC and Mediazona show that Russian casualties peaked before Ukrainian offensive started and have been falling since. On the other hand, Ukrainian casualties have been catastrophic even by western admissions.

Again, there is no point continuing this since clearly we aren't going to convince one another of anything. We will simply see who is right when the war ends.

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