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submitted 1 year ago by ickplant@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Palestinians say this war is robbing them not only of their loved ones but also of the funeral rites that long have offered mourners some dignity and closure in the midst of unbearable grief. Israeli strikes have killed so many people so quickly that they’ve overwhelmed hospitals and morgues, making the normal rituals of death all but impossible.

Overflowing morgues have compelled hospitals to bury people before their relatives can claim them. Gravediggers have laid dozens of unidentified bodies side by side in two large backhoe-dug furrows in Gaza City now holding 63 and 46 bodies, respectively, said Mohammed Abu Selmia, the general director of Shifa Hospital.

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[-] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Even in death there is no peace or dignity for Palestinians, it is absolutely tragic.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

When your government refuses to negotiate for viable peace then ramps up hostilities by invading and murdering hundreds of innocent civilians
"Why can't we have peace?"
Guess it's a mystery.

[-] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Right. That’s the problem. Not a 75 year occupation, genocide and apartheid. Sure.

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You can't really say it's "their government" when the Palestinians in Gaza haven't had free and fair elections in years. Hamas has fucked the civilians in both Israel and Gaza. Civilians of either country who don't support the aggressive actions of "their side" (countinued settlement, terrorism) shouldn't be suffering as a result.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can’t really say it’s “their government” when the Palestinians in Gaza haven’t had free and fair elections in years.

Many people live under governments that are not democracies, those are still their governments. Last time Gaza did have free elections, they elected Hamas.

Hamas has fucked the civilians in both Israel and Gaza.

They sure have.

Civilians of either country who don’t support the aggressive actions of “their side” (countinued settlement, terrorism) shouldn’t be suffering as a result.

And yet that's predictably what always happens in war. I'm sure that there were many innocent civilians who opposed Nazi policies in Germany, yet still shared consequences of the regime that they lived under.

[-] Catoblepas 13 points 1 year ago

Last time Gaza did have free elections, they elected Hamas.

What year did that happen, again?

And the average Gaza citizen is how old, you say?

Exactly how long does it have to be since a fair election has taken place for you to say that holding children accountable for their parents’ vote is unconscionable?

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I love that now when it's against Palestinian everyone is saying "is it right to blame the child for their parents' aggression?"

While for years that very same argument wasn't heard for Israelis when Palestinians yelled "from the river to the sea" and did an Intifada... Back then the left was focusing on "give them back the 48 land!"

Makes you wonder huh.

[-] Catoblepas 5 points 1 year ago

Wow yeah the population of Gaza that is nearly 50% children sounds extremely responsible for that.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You didn't read a word I typed? Again, blaming the children for that situation is just as effective as blaming Israelis for existing in their own state, on which they were born and raised. (Something that all Palestinian leaders are blaming every Israeli for, and are teaching their people to hate those same children who were just born there).

And those same people, who were born and raised in their own country, didn't do anything to get the wrath of Hamas, yet here we are.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Is Israel responsible for the demography of Gaza? Should these children be considered an effective shield for Hamas, behind which they can launch attacks on civilians with impunity?

It seems to me the ones most responsible for putting children at risk are the parents who decided to have lots of them while penned in in a war zone run by belligerent terrorists, but I suspect you don't want to hear that. You seem pretty committed to blaming Israel for the miserable situation Gazans have created for themselves, the inevitable and predictable result of repeatedly choosing violence every time despite this conflict being unwinnable militarily.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Guess it’s a mystery.

Yeah! Just like the Warsaw Uprising of 1943 was a complete mystery! Why wouldn't those ungrateful Jewish people just accept the wondrous peace the Nazis was offering them, eh? It's a travesty, I tell you!

(/s - for the people on here that arent rabid white supremacists like the one I'm responding to)

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