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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I never understood why a counselor would be on that spot. A linguist? Why not. Historian? Absolutely biologist/chemist? Understandable. Counselor? Nah-uh

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Regular counselor? Sure, doesn't need to be on the bridge.

Mind-reading empath, though? Massive strategic advantage in any encounter, friend or foe! Put her on the bridge!

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Indeed. It doesn't happen too often, but the writers occasionally remembered to do something useful with her empath powers, like in the Samaritan ep where she's the first one to clock that the Pakled's are up to something. Ofc this comes a few minutes after Worf says something like "bro we really want to send Geordi over there?" and Riker's like "look at these dipshits he's gonna be fine" and then Troi is the one that figures it out. So must have been opposite day in the writer's room or something.

[-] Ser_Salty@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, stating the obvious, which she does quite a lot, is also quite advantageous. Like, sure, that Klingon Captain seems angry and insulted, but what if he's just a really good actor trying to deceive a Federation ship? When Troi goes "Yup, he's angry and insulted" that would basically be the go ahead to assume he's telling the truth and act accordingly.

But TNG writers usually only seemed to remember there was an empath on the bridge at the last second, so they just wrote in she can't sense anything

I think there's a lot of value in quickly profiling enemies and anyone else you deal with.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Ah yes valuable skills like sensing that the romulans may be hiding something.

And that the alien who is yelling seems angry

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And the Ferengi is scheming. Oh, wait, she can't read Ferengi.

[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago

Show was written in a time before streaming, before people could record TV. She was there to explain to the audience, who were assumed to not be aware of the previous episodes, who the bad guys are.

[-] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good point! I had VHS tapes that had been recorded over too much....I often missed half an ep, because I set the timer wrong or I already had a good one and I tried to record a second on the same tape.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

The stories which her empathy abilities are more useful don't make it to the show unfortunately, they're over too quickly. That's my theory.

[-] fleeb@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. She's an empath that can size up the adversary over a FaceTime call. Pretty awesome advantage!

[-] howsetheraven@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Uh what? Historian? The history of...where no man has gone before? Why would a biologist/chemist be on the bridge? They would be in a lab where they could actually employ their skills. Not saying Counselor is the best, but it's pretty obvious it's because of her abilities, not her title.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

One would think that it is important for a ship's counselor to remain pretty detached from the day-to-day decision-making of the crew. That it would be a very bad idea for the counselor to be regularly fraternizing with what are basically her patients.

I wonder how this works in, for example, the Navy.

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

She's psychic though.

[-] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

She gotta handle the very high achievers of the flagship- they all have neuroses. It would be like managing a class of potential CEOs. Riker has typical dad issues, La Forge has anxiety, Crusher has.....french and scottish issues....

[-] Haus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Once upon a time this was a subject that came up on the bridges of Navy ships.

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