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Bro, come skiing
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They're really not, it's pretty hard to get seriously hurt with skiing. The first thing you get taught is how to stop, and if you ever feel like you're not in control you need to just throw yourself down on the ground.
Skiing at least in Austria is nowhere near as scummy as this post indicates either, and you won't get sunburn if you wear proper clothing.
If you're renting skis you probably want to rent them where you're skiing so you don't have to carry them on public transport or anywhere, which is a nightmare.
Although they are not super common, one should always be aware that going downhill at high speed is still risky. My mom's friend lost their teenage daughter when she hit a tree around a turn and died.
At high speed? What do you consider high speed????
If you’re high speed skiing you’re being unsafe and if you get hurt it’s because you’re doing something dumb. Slow the fuck down and there is no reason to be hitting trees at high speed.
Just because you have the option to bomb down the hill as fast as you can doesn’t mean you should. People that do that are being reckless and dumb.
If you can’t slow down then you need to learn the basics and stick to hills that are manageable. There’s no excuse for that shit.
Way to gloss over someone's death you unempathetic prig.
And new skiers may not know how to control their speed, and thus accidents happen.
They didn't comment on the death or have anything to do with it? I didn't respond because I was scared of exactly this type of reaction.
I do agree they're being rude, and quite dumb on purpose in later replies but still.
Exactly, as I said they glossed over the fact I personally know someone who has died skiing, and go on to argue skiing is perfectly safe, despite evidence to the contrary.
There is some truth to what they said, skiing can be perfectly save if you pretty much do exactly what they said. They're definitely ignoring other factors and reasons why you'd want to go fast.
I'm not sure why someone shouldn't "gloss over" the other part, it doesn't contribute to the discussion here.
How does knowing someone who died from skiing not contribute to the discussion of ski safety? It has everything to do with it, and no, you should not gloss it over unless you're a heartless cunt.
Even if you don't go fast, you'll never be perfectly safe because of the reckless or inexperienced people who do go fast that can hit you.
Should I be mourning instead? Do you want condolences?
That’s like claiming that walking is super dangerous because one time some guy you knew walked off a cliff.
You could try not being an asshole.
People do get injured and die skiing. It is not as safe as you claim it is. And you're being a complete asshole about it.
And slaloming down the side of a mountain on some planks of wood is far more dangerous than walking, and you fucking know that.
That’s like claiming that mowing your lawn is super dangerous because one time your dumb ass friend got wasted and drove his mower into the pool.
if you’re a beginner you belong on a beginner hill. Skiing is pretty damn safe as long as you use proper judgement.
If you smack into a tree and die because you can’t control yourself then that is a judgement issue. No different then falling on your ass because you decided to take a walk on an icy hill.
Walking is safe. Walking on an icy hill isn’t. See the difference?
Wow, so still a complete asshole.
Hundreds of people die skiing worldwide each year. Skiing is vastly more dangerous than ice hockey, a sport where people with blades on their feet fight each other.
And that's not mentioning the hundreds of thousands of injuries.
Skiing is not nearly as safe as you claim it is, so stop being such an asshole about it.
I am all for saying XYZ is dangerous but at least give a compelling example. Someone using zero judgement isn’t a good example.
Otherwise next you’ll claim that using a wheel chair is dangerous because one time your friend died because they tried to jump the Grand Canyon.
600 deaths and 600,000 injuries a year as a result of a sport a small minority of people take part in. Skiing is not as safe as you claim.
And you're still a colossal asshole.
Everyone is an asshole. Woopty dooo.
You can pull out all the statistics you want but nothing will change the fact that your buddy is dead because they decided to do something more dangerous than the actual sport.
It’s really easy to say skiing is dangerous. But you can’t just admit that your friend died being reckless, not because skiing is “dangerous”.
Sounds like you’re just another asshole on lemmy. Grats.
She was not being reckless, she missed a turn and ended up falling into a pit where she couldn't stop and hit a tree.
Skiing is not as safe as you claim it is.
And no, you're a special kind of asshole, because you flippantly discount someone's death due to an accident, because you can't accept your precious sport isn't as perfectly safe as you think it is.
It’s as dangerous as you want it to be. That’s the part your tiny brain cannot grasp.
Some people suck terribly at risk management and clearly you’re in that category.
Sounds reckless to me. But then again you don’t understand risk management.
You don't understand accidents. A sudden unexpected ice patch can send someone down hard. A build-up of soft snow without good support underneath can create an invisible pit that can be fallen into.
I skied and snowboarded for over a decade, and was considered quite good, and the only reason I don't do it these days is I don't live near a hill.
But I am smart enough to acknowledge there are plenty of risks, and it is possible to get seriously injured or die as a result of the sport even if you work hard to eliminate those risks.
You're stupid statement that it's perfectly safe is the exact idiotic statement that gets people killed, because it makes it sound like there is no risk.
“Perfectly safe”. So you’re just going to fabricate lies to win some dumb argument? Considering I never said that it just means you’re lying.
Usually when someone needs to bring hyperbole to an argument it means they lost.
You keep pretending your friends death was some freak accident that couldn’t have been avoided instead of just accepting that if they executed better judgement they’d still be alive.
If you have even half the experience you claim you have you would know there is absolutely no reason to be moving at fatal speeds without ignoring the blatant danger. That’s a choice not an accident.
People don’t just fall over and die skiing as if they got struck by lightening.
You know who make up the majority of skiing accidents? That’s right, people who ignore danger signs, and ski off main trails for the thrills, and end up getting stuck under an avalanche, or the other million things that can kill you when you’re not skiing on main trails. That’s not normal skiing; that’s high risk activity and it’s what contributes to the majority of the statistics you’re firing off without understanding them.
If you’re doing the right thing there is no reason to get wrapped around a tree unless you’re skiing in a place you shouldn’t be.