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So I have noticed from reading through posts and my own research that there isn't much information on how mental health and psychology would be taken care of and implemented. I could very well be wrong and would appreciate anyone's pointing me to an initial resource in order to understand more. And if it hasn't been confronted as a problem, I would like to ruminate with others on what those possibilities could look like. We can't eschew mental health.

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[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

TL;DR: no change, like physical health, but more community focus is likely to improve outcomes.

I'm not exactly sure what you think would be different in solarpunk? The mental health continuum (like the physical) doesn't change. Different indeginous groups have differing mental health practices and histories, but like physical health best practices shouldn't be region dependant. This differences are primarily at healthy and pre-injury levels anyways (where I personally liked to see patient led decisions over imposed group decisions)

At the healthy end of things, solarpunk is more community based which creates more positive environments, but it's not something easy to quantify, and thus compare.

At the warn/pre-injury level, community focus makes more resilient people and groups, so there should be more self-recovery from this part of the scale. Hard to quantify as above. Some additional social work here can also improve self-recovery, but that's a resource question.

At injury, treatment is therapy supplimented with medications. When therapy resources are lacking other medical professionals lean on medication, but that's a resource question. No change.

At severe injury, management is therapy supplimented with medications; with patient freedoms restriction to pervent self or others harm. No change.

[-] psyqology@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I wrote a bunch of words in opposition to your statement, but after reading your other response, it is clear to me that you have a completely different view of mental health, and what solarpunk looks like. And I don't think you have taken a lot of transitional information, disability information, racial information, gender information, economic information, educational information, or a few other things into account in your response.

[-] okasen@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

It would be really helpful for further discussion if you backed up your reasoning with a direct refution of something they said. Even if it's just an example. It's a lot easier to keep discussing where we need more intersectional viewpoints if we know what you find lacking.

[-] psyqology@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't think the obvious things like people who are disabled or have things like ADHD needed explanation, to be fair. And those things are basic enough to me to warrant a refute of the poster's reasoning.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry I'm not seeing a seemingly obvious connection.

We already consider disabilities and ADHD in the mental health continuum; so it's not clear to me why would this need to change for solarpunk.

I would love to hear what needs to be changed specific to solarpunk, but may I suggest we close this specific comment line and focus on the other one?

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'd love to hear them.

it is clear to me that you have a completely different view of mental health

I career changed out of the psychology field quite some time ago, and even then I only worked a specific subset; so that will obviously influence my biases, though I'm pretty sure I'm awaiof all of them. I also try to keep current, but will never claim recency.

Has the mental health continuum/scale changed? I may have some archaisms or mis-translations in there.

I'd be interested in what's biasing your views of mental health to help us find common ground.

I don't think you have taken a lot of [transitional, disability, racial, gender, information, educational of other information] into account in your response.

Correct. These are environmental factors to mental health, and they wildy vary. These need to be considered regionally and individually, but nomoreso than they already are. These also can't be considered wholesale for all of solarpunk because of their regional nature. I

f you have one specific solarpunk community, we can certainly dive in; but I can't think of any that would apply to all solarpunk and only solarpunk. That's not to say their aren't any, maybe you have some ideas?

it is clear to me that you have a completely different view [of] what solarpunk looks like.

Our views probably diverge from the solarpunk manifesto. I take a more activist than scifi view, if that helps us find common ground.

I look forward to hearing your response. My guess is I have the professional background and you have the visionary spirit. This can often lead to a great partnership.

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