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Not at all biased when the article starts out with a likely out of context picture of a cow looking terrified and as if it's crying. Fuck corporations, all of them, fuck them all, but there are a few of us with severe enough allergies that without meat we would starve. Ableist bullshit to believe everyone can stop eating meat.
what does sustainable mean?
So if experts in the field conceded that there is an unbreakable ceiling for lab-grown meat that it will never be as sustainable as organic meat, would that change your view?
Because the most efficient lab grown meat requires incubator technology that scales negatives; that is, you lose efficiency as you scale up, so you would need lots of small, prohibitively expensive, in a massive perfectly contaminant-free clean-room. Short of starting from scratch and discovering a completely new technique that has never been envisioned, lab-grown meat will always be worse for the environment and for sustainability than organic meat.
Some people don't like this guy, but this is a fairly honest video on the problems with lab-grown meat.
If it ever becomes affordable I would love to see that and would certainly consider it. Until then...
What allergies do you have such that without meat you would starve if I may ask?
they don't owe you their medical history and it's creepy to ask.
It's not creepy to ask a follow-up about information they volunteered in the first place.
what's the name of the person who raised you that you don't think that's creepy?
... What?
Hmm, okay.. no is also fine. I have just not heard of any such conditions before. I Googled for it and asked ChatGPT, but got nothing.
No, if they bring it up in conversation respectful questions are fair game.
I have a severe salicylate allergy to the point that 90% of veggies cause an allergic reaction for me. Aspirin tolerance therapy hasn't been an option because of the severity of my allergy. I have several documented nut allergies, among other true food allergies to various foods from shellfish, other fish, bananas, sweet potatoes ( and their family), as well as mustard etc etc, and then an impressive list of IgG reactions (food intolerances) that cause immune response in my digestive system. Amongst them is most grains, nuts, milk, yogurt, some cheeses. Although I'm not allergic to MSG because it's debated that's even possible, I do have severe migraines w/ aura triggered by foods with high glutamates like textured vegetable protein, aside from salicylate content of those proteins. What to hear what my body things of nitrates? I used to be a guy who could roll around in poison ivy without breaking out and was allergic to almost nothing. Then my autoimmune disease started and my body went nuts. Granted I'm a vast minority of people, but I'd rather not lose any more foods.
Wow, I never had heard of salicylates. If you combine that with your other allergies that indeed leaves you with a very restricted diet. What I understand is that you could still survive on a vegan diet, but you'd be extremely limited in what you can eat and perhaps have a hard time meeting your daily requirements. Are supplements working for you? I understand your point of view. Thanks for sharing.
I sincerely doubt that you can only eat meat...
That's not what I said, but it's what you wanted to hear. I wish your doubts could change the facts of my existence but they can't . I said I would be severely limited and I am. I have a salicylate allergy so severe I can't eat 90% of veggies. There are several other true allergies and then there are tested IgG sensitives to most grains and nuts. Congratulations, you're an ableist and if there's one thing I'm used to it's ableists telling me what I should be able to do. Luckily extremist vegans will never achieve their goals.
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