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Yes, that might be the case under the current circumstances. The above picture helped to imagine what 500 people look like crammed squarely in a space. I doubt the 500 hypothetical people resting in the parking lot were placed more tightly than that.
Next, look at pictures of the detonation crater, which has the size of a sewer manhole. Imagine that explosion going off in the middle of the audience of 500 people. Would they all die from that? The sheer amount of body mass and flesh would shield the people in rows 20+ from the explosion.
I bet you couldn't kill 500 people with whatever exploded there, if you tied them directly onto the bomb, or rocket, or whatever. Is there any precedent of a terrorist attack or military strike or anything which killed that many people with a similarly small explosion?
You can't imagine people running away from being bombed being more tightly packed than people attending a conference?
Ok, fair point. But still, the explosion only has finite power. Shock waves literally do have a kill limit. They cannot rip through waves and waves of human flesh and still come out deadly on the other side. At some point, the energy is absorbed, the fragments are absorbed.
At this point, no one is arguing about how many people died, people are arguing about who did it.
Now, who has a rocket that can kill hundreds of humans, the Israeli army, one of the most powerful armies in the world, backed by the US, the most powerful army in the world, or Hamas, who make pitiful self-made rockets from metal pipes?
Oh, people are arguing about exactly that. We're even in a subthread which is all about the number 500!
As far as I know, all evidence points to a palestinian device, including the small blast radius.
And the claim that "hundreds of humans" were killed is most probably fake news.
I'm not interested to go into further rabbit holes. This cannot be resolved in debate anyways. Future investigations might reveal what happened, we cannot do that here.
Alright, this thread is arguing about how many people were killed. The rest of the world is arguing about who did it.
But the western media and the president of the US are saying Hamas did it.
This is the president of the same country that lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to invade them, and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians(In Iraq alone). And their response years later was "Sorry, my bad".
What makes you think they won't lie about this? Or anything else?