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Thousands of Jewish Americans and Allies Demand Cease-Fire in Gaza
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Yes. History shows us that they will continue to bomb until they get their people back.
nah, history shows that they will keep bombing Gaza until the imaginary blood price has been paid.
You clearly don't understand the history of the region. Israel has given back the Golan to the Lebanese, the Sinai to the Egyptians and Gaza to the Palestinians.
If you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone. If you fuck with them, they've shown they will grind your bones into dust indistinguishable from the rubble of the buildings you're hiding your missiles in.
That's what history tells us. Hamas is about to get a history lesson.
your not very good with history are you?
Golan, considered Syrian under Israeli occupation by everyone but the USA (and that only during trumps presidency)
Sinai, forced peaceful withdrawal by American and Various European nations to open up the Suez
Gaza, an open air concentration camp
Are you trying to claim Israel hasn't given back lands they captured while being attacked in the Golan and Sinai?
Just want to be clear about this.
so, again: Golan: under Israeli occupation right now, this very second, as i type this comment.
Sinai: Israel was forced to give this land back by an international coalition that threatened to send their own military to do it instead, this was the solution to the Suez Crisis and ironically one of the few things the USA and the Soviets actually did together, thwarting the French and British neocolonial aims for Africa.
Now aside from that, you seem to have a different definition of "being attacked", you see I don't view the side that strikes first as "being attacked" but rather "attacking", I know this is a common myth spread by American conservative groups and think tanks like PraugerU, but it's just factually incorrect, just like your assertion about Golan.
So you're admitting to redefining terms based on how they benefit you. That you're trying to position Israel being attacked by five different countries at the same time as if Israel's the aggressor really puts a point on your anti-semitism. Israel didn't throw the first punch there, or in the yk war. The record is clear on those fronts.
Israel gave backland in the Golan. They've maintained a position there for their defense which has proven to be necessary and valuable over the past 75 years. That doesn't negate the fact that they gave backland in the Golan. Egypt lost the war. Israel held the land and gave it back. That proves they will give back land in order to move the peace process forward. Your blind Jew hate makes you unable to admit this reality.
You're really working hard to spin facts in an anti-semitic way. You've admitted that you will redefine reality to suit your purposes and you've demonstrated that you have no issues doing it. Different definitions, alternative facts, it's all just lies dude.
All we have here is you lying and spreading propaganda. At least we have you're admitting to it though.
my god, Israel started the 6-day war, this is a fact, the fucking Israeli government even said it did!
and Israel returned Golan so hard Trump formerly had the US recognize it as Israeli territory, and just like the west bank the Israeli supreme court literally confirmed that it is under belligerent occupation.
You are literally repeating American Conservative propaganda not even Israel agrees with!
Good gracious, they've been attacked on multiple fronts on a half dozen occasions including the 6 day war. Nasser loaded up the border and rattled his Saber too damn hard giving up his plans. Israel defended itself from being attacked. That's not starting a war, that's responding to your neighbor starting one. That time they were attacked by what? 6 countries? They didn't invade those countries, they pushed the front forward after being attacked. That you'd even attempt to claim they're the aggressor in a 6:1 fight just proves your Jew hate is blinding.
Again, your misinformation is just spreading lies. They returned land in the Golan. That's undeniable. They maintain land for security purposes, that's a necessity as we've seen this week. Conflating that with the West Bank is about as intellectually dishonest as the rest of your attempted propaganda.
I'm repeating history, which is ironic because yet again Israel has been attacked and forced to defend itself.
When they turn Gaza back over to the Egyptians this time, hopefully they can do something positive with it this time. They're going to have a blank canvas.
Nasser was literally in the US looking for them to mediate, and the Egyptian military was literally at home because they had no plans to attack.
the reason Israel attacked Egypt was because Egypt signed a defense pact with Jordan, a region the Zionists felt was theirs by divine mandate.
Also "turn Gaza back to the Egyptians"? you don't have a clue of anything related to the Mideast, do you?
Every time you respond, you just shift your lie hahaha. What a joke. An Army was sitting on the border, the national leaders said war was imminent. Israel defended itself as it has the right to. Nasser was hardly looking for peace proactively mobilizing troops. That's as laughable as claiming Hamas are freedom fighters rather than terrorists.
Gaza was Egyptian after the Arab Israeli war. It remained under their control for nearly twenty years. That you're unaware of this fact I guess isn't surprising given your lack of education on this topic. It's just endless propaganda from the likes of you people, but you've been indoctrinated so it makes sense you don't have a basis of facts to work from.