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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Can't even seek through songs.

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[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 209 points 2 years ago

Well, if you don't pay with money, you're paying with your attention. Do you think they create this huge service just for funsies?

Tbf, out of all media streaming services across movies, series, and music, Spotify has the highes bang-for-your-buck. It's still like Netflix at that time when there was only Netflix and you could watch almost everything on one platform. I still buy records that I like on physical media like vinyl, but Spotify is such a great deal for convenient listening to all music out there.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 97 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 29 points 2 years ago

Surely you have a better explanation for why Spotify isn't giving you the full service for free.

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Yeah don't use it if you don't want to, idc. But you might accept the thought that there are people that think the deal Spotify puts on the table is good.

[-] porkins@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Spotify is not profitable nor ever has been. It accrued $4B in additional debt last year. The business is subject to high royalty fees. As a competitor, I just leave free Spotify running all day on mute since they lose money from every subscriber. The royalties are the same whether they make money or not on the customer. It is wise of them to more aggressively convert people to paid plans, but Iโ€™m sure that their margins are razor thin.

[-] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

You individually are a competitor to Spotify?

[-] RIPandTERROR 29 points 2 years ago

I hum in the shower ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰

[-] ezures@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 years ago

Spotify execs hate this one trick

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[-] Blackout@kbin.social 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Man these people forget the days when a month of Spotify would afford you 1 CD. I remember cause I would spend half my paycheck on music. I'm just sitting here happy for services like Spotify and YouTube in my life. I remember a time when music and information was much harder to obtain (even illegally).

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

But if you bought the CD you actually owned something. Stop paying for the services and you have nothing if all you used was spotify/YouTube/pandora. I gave up on paying for streaming years ago and spend the same amount monthly on purchasing music. I get CDs, either new or used. Iโ€™ve amassed a collection and I donโ€™t need Internet or monthly charges to play them.

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 44 points 2 years ago

But I don't want to own it. I don't want to amass a collection of CDs taking up space somewhere. Been there, done that. I have a large collection of ripped mp3s from CDs I bought in the 90s and early 2000s (I've long since disposed of the physical media). I haven't clicked on a single one of them in years, I just keep them for nostalgia sake and because they take relatively little space.

I just occasionally want to listen to music sans commercials or annoying DJs wasting my time. For the cost of 1 CD a month my entire family can listen to almost anything they desire, at any time, without hassles (on Pandora in our case but I assume the economics are similar).

Same thing with movies, honestly. I watch them once and move on. There's a small handful I like enough to rewatch and I do own those.

I get the whole, we don't own anything anymore, argument and I mostly agree with it (see my massive Steam library). I just want both options to be viable. Streaming for ephemeral entertainment and actual ownership for the things I choose to keep.

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

We all have our preferences and I enjoy the quantity of music I can get in a heartbeat. It really sucked when you were 16 and spent $15 on a CD that sucked because there was no way to hear it ahead of time.

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[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Valid point, but commuting with my turntable to listen to my sick vinyls on the go is a pain in the ass. Also moving sucks ass when you have a metric fuckton of sensitive vinyl to move. Owning stuff also has its downsides. Also no way I'm digitizing my vinyls and cutting them and shit to listen to them on the go, ain't nobody got time fo dat.

I gave up on CDs roughly 15 years ago because I don't like the format compared to vinyl (small album art, plasticy jewelcases, ...).

[-] small44@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

You owned the music when you buy it. With multiple backups the risks of losing it it very minimal but with spotify or other streaming services, if you have to reduce your expenses you completely lose the access to the music till you pay again. Spotify always grey out songs too so even when you pay you may not have access to the some of the music you want to listen to

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

I feel you, the value from Spotify is enormous. I can sift through ten different bands in no time just because I decided that I want to look up a new genre that I may or may not be totally into by the end.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Kid: goes to school

Police: THAT'S ILLEGAL

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I remember cause I would spend half my paycheck on music

Lmao

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[-] AcornCarnage@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I know not everyone will agree, but I think YouTube premium is the better bang-for-buck service. $3 more per month than Spotify and includes YouTube Music premium and YouTube Premium. So all the music and ad-free YouTube.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 30 points 2 years ago

Except what YT Premium does is easily doable with free tools.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

Only so long as Google decides to continue serving content for free to people who contribute nothing to their bottom line, which isn't guaranteed to last.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 26 points 2 years ago

*with free tools from thankless efforts.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 25 points 2 years ago

You can donate to projects you like tho

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

Preach. Iโ€™d rather donate to those folks than give google money lawl

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

An argument could easily be made for Spotify as well. There are plenty of options for streaming music for free to your device with download support. Just about anything can be done for free if people are willing.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, for now. YouTube is cracking down on ad-blockers, don't think they'll let those free tools work forever...

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

YouTube is basically the same price as Spotify in my country (only 12 cents more actually), so even more bang for my buck, specially for family plans.

[-] shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Surprising to see any suggestions on here for YouTube Premium. I have been lucky enough to be on a family plan for years and it's honestly great. Sometimes, it's just easier not to deal with having to hack around things to make them usable.

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[-] CO_Chewie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I'm currently in a three month trial due to the value (music streaming and ad free you tube), but coming from Pandora YT Music's radio algorithm sucks sooooo bad. One of my first plays was a foo fighters album and now all the stations I create have alt/grunge in them. It's making it really hard to consider staying.

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago

I'd rather vote for Deezer. Costs the same, but you also get lossless (16-bit 44.1kHz FLAC) audio.

By the way, free-mp3-download.net rips songs from Deezer. And if you don't like spending storage, you could self-host your own Navidrome server, though I get that may not be convenient.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I need 48-bit 96kHz raw PWM otherwise my ears can't tolerate it. I can hear the difference in the waveforms.

[-] uberkalden@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Careful, this same take when discussing YouTube ads will draw the ire of the internet

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