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It sucks that we are not allowed to call bad ideas, bad ideas. Especially when it comes to Israel. Criticism is always antisemitism. I'm sorry I don't believe any country should be able to start an ethnostate and drive millions of people out of an area they have lived for what? Thousands of years? What does Israel think is going to happen? They are teaching a whole new generation to hate them. (as if they already diddnt) This will just cause more terrorist cells to pop up and work to kill more innocent people.
All in the name of some sky daddy. The only reason the US supports Israel is because some 2000 year old work of fiction wrote some doomsday prophecy.
I'm trying to work out why the US is sending an arms package to Israel. The US has already provided Israel with the highest level of technology for its armed forces. It can wipe out it's neighbours several times over. The world is pleading with Israel to show restraint, and the US is saying "have more missiles, please".
Yes. This isn't Ukraine fighting off a bigger invading army. Presumably, Israel has enough weapons and ammunition to fight a war against Lebanon, Egypt, and their other hostile neighbours. Their plan for ~~ethnic cleansing~~ militant suppression in Gaza surely won't do much to deplete those reserves.
This is Israel invading a tiny slice of land that has no army. Sure, there are some militants there, clearly they have some weapons, but is there ever going to be an actual justification for things like artillery or tank shells?
I mean, we all know Israel is going to use them, but they're going to be using them against civilian infrastructure. And, if Israel is using so many shells that they run out, should the US really be supplying artillery that is 100% going to be used against civilian targets, because there's literally nothing else to attack in Gaza? If Israel uses so much ammo that it depletes their reserves and threatens their ability to fight a war with Egypt and Lebanon, well shouldn't Israel show some restraint and not do that?
Because, despite the hundreds of billions in murder-toy allowance the US has given Israel, the Palestinians have pretty much proved with this latest attack that it's not enough to secure the normalization of the kapo regime's existence.
I'm getting Tet offensive vibes from all this... and the fact that the US is quickly shoving large naval units into the area just strengthens it.
Honestly the popular support from the people who can't point to Israel on a map is religious.
The governmental support definitely is not based on religion. The US makes semiconductor tech there and Israel is one giant front-line fortress for us. Israel is the Middle Eastern outpost analog to all of the East Asian allies who are littered with US military bases.
My parents and my entire family only support Israel because the Bible says "If Israel falls the world ends". It's all the religious right cares about which is a very large part of the US. All of these are just my opinion and i love constuctive conversation. It's really a massive mix of things and just for me to minimize it to religion isnt exactly right.
I always heard it the other way around. That restoring Israel would bring about the End Times, but also that the End Times are a good thing because it means the Kongdom of God will finally be realized. I went to a pentecostal summer camp, though, so that might have something to do with it.
It's a prerequisite of the Christian rapture for the Jews to control Israel and Jerusalem.
So basically, they think that the Jews need to be in charge over there so that the sky daddy can abduct people up to heaven when the apocalypse comes. Literally batshit insane. It sounds like something a schizophrenic person came up with.
It likely is.
Just like “bipolar disorder” used to be called “manic depression”, “schizophrenia” used to be called “prophecy”.
I bet God's dick is so big that when He wears protection it's called the Kongdom of God
Lol, didn't even notice. I'm leaving it
SkyDaddy sure, but don't forget American currency is tied to this destruction as well. We didn't didn't hustle out those 8-10 bill boats out there because we are fanboys of Bebe. Nothing good ever comes out of messing around in the Middle East. Nothing. It was a mistake for the US to get this involved.
You literally just did the thing you said "you aren't allowed to do". What is going to happen to you now?
Good point, I'm not really talking about here anonymous on lemmy. Talking about other social media sites, Facebook, reddit, in rl to coworkers and at least my family.
USA support isn't about any god or ethical stance, it's about raw geopolitical interests, about maintaining power and hegemony. Israel is a key ally for them in the Middle East, while Palestina is an ally to Iran, which is an ally to Russia and China. Neither of them give a shit about who lives or dies, all of them make human sacrifices on a daily basis. Cold war never ended, and now it's just getting hotter.
One guess as to who gets to define the meaning of the term antisemitism, too: “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”
https://res.cloudinary.com/elsc/images/v1685978238/The-Practice-of-Suppressing-Palestinian-Rights-Advocacy-FINAL-PP/The-Practice-of-Suppressing-Palestinian-Rights-Advocacy-FINAL-PP.pdf
Censorship of antigovernment criticism is common in China, North Korea, Russia and other authoritarian states, which include Israel and the United States of America.