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Love this is what we spend our resources on while children go without food, water, electricity, education, and shelter.
You could say the same thing about posting on Lemmy. Or a new game in your favorite RPG series coming out. Or Starbucks' newest coffee flavor. Or any number of other comforts.
This is the "don't be depressed, starving children in Africa have it worse" kind of argument. Please don't.
Magnitude matters, and the resources wasted doing this could have a legitimate impact.
Lol. Settle down there and think about why this doesn't make any rational sense.
No it's not, and you're resorting to analogies because you can't argue against the topic at hand. Please try to stay on topic.
Funny watching people like you defend wasting money on electric dresses while kids go without food, water, electricity, education, and shelter. You're trying to save face because you like contributing to the problem but don't want to admit it.
It's okay, I come across people like you all the time. You're the kind of person who thinks those who have more, deserve more, and those who have less, deserve less.
This is such a SJW argument. What are you doing to help any of those people? Adobe does charitable giving and employee matching for donations/volunteered time for up to 10k/month per employee. last year Adobe gave over 6 million dollars to various charities as a result of this program. They're only able to do that if they are making money and innovating.
I'm not saying Adobe is a great company or anything, but they have done and are doing more to help disadvantaged people than you'll likely ever be able to accomplish, and their ability to do that is dependent on their business being successful.
Is this a waste of resources? Perhaps, but they aren't responsible for solving the world's issues, any they are contributing. What have you done? From what I understand, you could contribute more to the people you're describing by applying and working for Adobe rather than criticizing them.
For one, not argue against them like you're doing right now. Like it or not, I can't solve these problems myself. Discussion and sharing of ideas is necessary to put solutions into action and change culture.
Sorry that needs to be spelled out for you, but you're clearly someone who thinks wealth should never be criticized.
Gonna block you now. Goodbye.
Running away because I struck a little too close to home?
Despite what the GOP would have you believe, The US and EU have actually achieved post-scarcity, China is close. You should be fighting for post-inequality because that is what is holding back the rest of the world, as well as millions of citizens of the US and EU.
Yes, we're just passing a bunch of money around at the top.
It's why I almost never take Americans seriously when they say they 'need' more money. They don't know what that word means, or what hard work really is.
Oh really? Americans don't ever need more money? How about these Americans? They're doing fine on whatever they can panhandle from people leaving the Walmart parking lot and dumpster food?
Oh... and some of those people? Full-time employed.
United States owns 30% of the worlds wealth while having the 4.2% of the worlds total population, though. Does a group of people need more food ehen most of them are starving because a few of them hoarded 95% of it and are sitting on it doing nothing....?
The claim was that you shouldn't take Americans seriously when they say they need more money. I would say those Americans should be taken seriously if that's what they say, especially the ones with full-time jobs who are still living in tents because the rent is too high.
Move out of the major city. Nobody is entitled to live there. Supply and demand.
Again, I don't live in a major city.
Cool. Then you don't have a significant issue of people working fulltime but can't afford living quarters.
Do the people in the picture you posted live in a major city? Cause that's who I was referring to.
Except yes we do. But you don't believe me, so I'm not sure why you're still arguing about it.
Because you're lying and I'm going to point it out as such.
I don't hold you above that behavior since you posted a picture of people in a major city then when it's pointed out they're in a major city you conveniently say "I don't live in a major city and it's the same way."
I wasn't born yesterday.
Ok, you already pointed out that I'm supposedly lying, so why are you continuing? Do you need to point out that I am telling so-called lies over and over again?
I was responding to this:
How about you stop asking me questions or pretending to be confused so I don't have any further explanations to give?
Are you going to reply to this and be like "why are you still continuing"? Lol.
This is a list of notable tent cities. Notice how many of them are not in large metro areas. The one here isn't even a notable one because there are only around 2000 homeless people here.
Here's the major difference: we're not just talking about tent cities. You specifically said those were people with full-time jobs that couldn't afford living quarters.
Can you prove that the tent cities outside of major cities are primarily occupied by full-time workers?
There you go moving goalposts and trying to distort reality. This is why I don't trust you.
Primarily occupied? No. Because I never made that claim. Feel free to quote me. Since, you know, I'm the liar here.
Then there is no discussion. My argument ever since your reply has been that the phenomenon that you pointed out can only happen in major cities: people working full-time but can't afford living quarters.
Yeah, of course a homeless person without a job needs more money. I'm not referring to them because there's honestly no point to. You knew I wasn't referring to them, which is why you had to specify some of the people there were working full-time jobs.
I'm referring to the people working jobs who feel they should get paid more while people around the world work harder for less. Those are the ones I do not take seriously.
You, the liar that you are, posted a picture of people living in tents then said some of them have full-time jobs? How much is some? And to those some, I am specifically referring that their money would go further outside of major cities.
Anyways. This entire argument is in bad faith. I can tell you're the kind of person who thinks more money is the solution to all working class problems. It isn't.
Gonna block you now.
None of that was a quote. Hmm...
Looks like they're living in a major city.
Supply and demand.
They can leave and their money will go way further. The problem is, a lot of people living in major cities feel they're entitled to do so.
I don't live in a major city and we have the same thing here. So no.
I don't believe you.
Ok, I guess that's your right, I guess...
You may live outside of a major city, but then you don't have the problems from the picture you posted and the explanation you gave.
Okay, the tent city I volunteer to help people in doesn't exist. Just my imagination. Gotcha.
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The people who designed this were paid to design this. I presume that at least some of them have children. Therefore, resources spent to invent this did go to give children food, water, shelter, etc.
You're welcome.
Yeah, they could've done something else useful for society and still support their families.
For what? Your mental gymnastics? Lol.
Lol.
Look at the authoritarian communist, dictating how other people must live their lives.
Let's round up all the artists and musicians too, because they're not feeding kids or something.
Oh but didn't you hear? When we live on the commune we can all do like...arts and crafts and stuff..all day. And we don't really know how, but stuff will get done while we fingerpaint and there will be no poverty or hunger!
Huh? Improve your literacy, and reread the word I wrote in front of communist.
Lol your irony
Oh look, a butthurt capitalist
Authoritarian capitalism isn't much better, but fortunately, I included the word authoritarian.
Can you people stay on topic?
You mean, like how the original commenter did?
What do you mean? I was talking about how the dress is a waste of resources, then he started talking about artists and musicians.
You are not on topic, and now you're crying because people are staying on your new topic.
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Sorry, you need to brush up on your rhetoric and reading comprehension.
Might want to take a remedial English course at your local community college.
Gonna block you now.
Nah, we're good, thanks. Gunna block you now.
Not a clever lad, are you? 🤦
HRRRRRR
You okay there?
Capitalists doing capitalist shit.
Of course they aren't ok. They may think they are, but they are having to recognize that while the system may have worked for them, and me, it certainly doesn't for most people and they can't handle that.