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[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

LOL as you type this on a electronic device that was made by capitalists.

[-] Skipcast@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Imagine participating in society lmaoo

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Sure, I take my family on vacations via airlines run by capitalists who fly airplanes built by capitalists. I like to sit in a bar that is privately owned by capitalists and chit chat over a beer that was brewed, bottled and distributed by capitalists.

Sure, I’m missing out on all the socializing that communists have time for when they are waiting in bread lines. But hey you can’t have everything.

[-] snail_hatan@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Person is already dead inside. They "have a family" but are acting like a teenager - speaks for itself...

[-] Kiosfriend@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"they're acting like a teenager" and "speaks for itself" in the same post. 😬

[-] snail_hatan@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for calling me on the shoddy rhetoric. The person I was replying to claims to have a family while themselves providing a typical teenage retort, thereby failing to act maturely, which is what one would expect from a decent parent. Any better? Still too ad hominem?

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago
[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Keep posting that meme, maybe it will be relevant one day.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's relevant today

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

My dude. The capitalists are not the people who made those devices. Workers made those things.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My man, capital was expended developing the technology underpinning those devices. It was expended building the tools and sourcing the materials that went onto the device that the workers built. Capital was expended paying the workers for the time they took making the devices and bringing the device to market to sell.

Labor and capital are needed to function. Both can be true at the same time.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Then the capitalist should only be entitled to recuperate their initial investment + whatever personal effort they put in.

How can it be the capitalist captures profit many years after those first two occurred?

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

It was made by inventors and workers. The capitalists own the company. They don't create.

You are not a capitalist.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

“Capital”… You keep using that word but I do not think it means what you think it means.

What is it that Investors invest? Could it be capital? Investors also tend to have ownership of the company.

Funny I thought a good education was one of the benefits of communism.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

And why should they? What makes investors special beyond "having lots of money"

Why should workers forfeit their labor at a fraction of its actual value to line the accounts of people who won the birth lottery?

Investors did not invent the product, they did not design it's manufacturing process, they did not acquire materials or even the land upon which the factory is built. And yet, they reap all the profits.

There's a simpler way

[-] xor 8 points 1 year ago

If you think "capitalism" just means that money exists, then you've completely misunderstood the concept

[-] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago
[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Ifone venezuale 100 trillion dead!

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We can have nice things without crushing levels of inequality orders of magnitude higher than humans have ever known at any point in history.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely you are 100% correct. However communism is not the answer.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And what is, O Wise One?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is not the flex you think it is.

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[-] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

The best response. So common it's hard to tell if it's a real response people believe.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Give it up. These people are living the benefits of a century of capitalism. Now that it's going down the shitter, the idea has, somehow, always been evil.

I figure it's a bunch of kids who haven't got the notion that any form of economy is, has and will be corrupted by humans.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Global capitalism is a very, very, very recent occurrence historically.

We went from a merchant-style sort of economy to capitalism almost overnight.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And in this merchant-style sort of economy, the rich weren't an order of magnitude richer than the poor, and profiting off their backs?

FFS, monkeys quickly figure out how to trade "money" for sex. World's oldest profession anyone? We're no different. Capitalism just perfected it.

Capitalism is just dandy, with some serious government oversight. Problem being, how do you stop the overseers from getting rich legislating the oversight? Same problem in any economic policy.

Kinda funny thought I had in my 20's. The only way to truly get rich is by getting other people working for you. Never pursued that line of work, just not me, can't do it. But it's still true and always will be, no matter the economics.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

tfw Marx was just a shitty millennial, apparently

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