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submitted 2 years ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

Palestine is not a religious entity, and have been in favor of religious coexistence since the very beginning. It is the Zionist state that is exclusive of other religions by design.

[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

All the yelling of "Allahu akbar" while celebrating the death and destruction in Israel, would seem to be in conflict with your statement.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

yelling of "Allahu akbar"

Saying "God is great" is problematic?

celebrating the death and destruction in Israel

They are resisting against the Zionist state founded on genocide and exclusivism. I don't see that violating their will for coexistance.

[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

When they're celebrating the killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies, it is a problem. Religion is the cancer that keeps that entire region either at war, or the brink of war

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago

You're gonna have to substantiate that claim. Show me evidence of Palestinians celebrating "killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies". Without evidence, your claim is to be ignored.

By the way, Israel has already admitted that they faked the "beheading of babies" story. Verify your evidence before responding.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Your link shows several quotes from the idf... all of which says "we cannot confirm" not any confirmation of the statement being a lie that i can see. Nor is there any evidence that an official Israeli representative started this story.

Stop lying about "evidence" before responding.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

They previously presented as fact. Now they're saying they can't confirm it and cannot present any evidence. I don't believe they have to spell out "we lied" for it to be obvious.

[-] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

No surprises there

[-] mpa92643@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Biden said

No offense, but that's all the reason not to believe it. "Guys I have proof! I won't show you but trust me bro, I've seen it!"

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago

Saying “God is great” is problematic?

Obviously

[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Saying "God is great" is problematic?

Forgot a "while murdering and beheading innocent civilians" there

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Not all Palestinians are Hamas…

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

So then, why is their official goal to destroy Israel? Thats 100% a religious war

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Israel is by its own definition the Zionist state founded on religious exclusivism. An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities. It should absolutely be taken down.

religious war

Israel is not Judaism.

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.

  • In land bordering the lands of lther religions and ethnicities.

What exactly justifies the takedown of Israel? That its religion is different or what? Thats none of ghe other countries business.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

as I already said above, it is because it is an ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc). It has engaged in massacre and forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)

So what? Thats their business what rules they want to have inside their country. Thats nl reason to attack them.

forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.

Forced expulsion is dtill inside their own country. So you take them down with a genocide yourself? Fight fire with fire?

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago

So what? Thats their business what rules they want to have inside their country.

Come on...

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

No it is not their business to genocide ethnic and religious minorities lmao. Would you say the same about the Nazis too? was the US justified in genociding native americans also? ridiculous.

Forced expulsion is dtill inside their own country

yes it is. I hope you dont mean that this makes it better. I may be failing to understand this genocide sympathizer logic.

So you take them down with a genocide yourself?

No. The only one committing genocide at the moment and in this conflict is Israel itself.

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

was the US justified in genociding native americans also?

No. Would you say its justified to attack the US today (because of that genocide)? I certainly wouldnt.

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