419
submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog "Tutsi."

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

"They are breaking down the safe room door," Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. "We need someone to come by the house right now." She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the "sweetest biggest heart," who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 year ago

Hamas isn't Palestine. They don't represent the Palestinian people. It's not because Hamas took her that she was betrayed by Palestinians.

[-] rivermonster@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Do they represent the Palestinians who voted for them? I mean, I get it, Nazi Republicans don't represent me. But there are some Americans these fascists do represent.

Also, the pro-Hamas supporters are also Palestinians., right?

I think it's best highlighted that not all Palestinans support Hamas instead of pretending there's none who do. You can also point out that in the west Bank Fatah is the dominate party, and the West Bank are Palestinians also.

There's endless threads lately trying to equate Hamas with all Palestinians, and lots of threads trying to say they represent none of the Palestinians. Neither is true.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

No I guess you're right. I mean if they represented no one, there wouldn't be a Hamas. But I'm fairly certain that's a minority. The rest, the regular people, just want peace and a normal life.

[-] Historical_General@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It does not matter in this case whether they have support or not. Israel funded Hamas against the PLO, hoping to deter a two state solution by pointing to the angry Islamists they funded. Netanyahu openly said it, and bragged.

They even assassinated other leg secular leaders. Netanyahu and the Mossad are responsible for tying the fate of the Palestinians to Hamas. And they share responsibility for the slaughter too.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

The more I read the more it seem Hamas works for Bibi.

Bibi was having a popularity problem. Now it doesn't matter.

The targets are mostly from the opposition to Bibi.

This gives him the excuse he was waiting to level Gaza.

Too many timely coincidences.

But maybe I'm just being paranoid.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Right? It's just too convenient.

[-] Historical_General@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Netanyahu and the Mossad literally funded Hamas against the left secular PLO. They have the blood of innocents on their hands.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have any sources about this? I wouldn't have any trouble believing you, but I always prefer when there's facts to look up.

[-] Historical_General@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good instinct to ask for sources, but I'd add that one can never underestimate the depravity capable by an apartheid, genocidal state.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Oooooooooohhhhh wow! Holy shit.

Amazing article. Thank you so much.

[-] Elric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They enjoy very wide support amongst the populace so they do represent many Palestinians, probably a majority?

[-] Historical_General@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Because they control the infrastructure, hospitals etc. This is the result of Israel assassinating other political leaders and funding Hamas. Netanyahu and the Mossad did it on purpose. Its their own fault.

this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
419 points (100.0% liked)

World News

38870 readers
1802 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS