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Europe gives Elon Musk 24 hours to respond about Israel-Hamas war misinformation and violence on X::Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, warns Elon Musk about disinformation on X related to the Israel-Hamas conflict.

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[-] w2qw@aussie.zone 87 points 1 year ago

"Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, said in a letter addressed to Musk on Tuesday that his office has “indications” that groups are spreading misinformation and “violent and terrorist” content on X, and urged the billionaire to respond within a 24-hour period."

Sounds like it's just a strongly worded letter.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

A bit below that it says that they're also threatening fines of 6% of annual revenue.

[-] LittleWizard@feddit.de 52 points 1 year ago

Are they gonna give Twitter more money then? /s

[-] SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

You're thinking of profit, not revenue

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Are we sure ~~Twitter~~ 𝕏's revenue is still in the positive? I don't think direct injections of capital count as revenue.

[-] vidarh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Revenue is money in before costs, so yes their revenue is still positive given they are actually charging some people positive amounts. Their earnings are quite likely negative.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 9 points 1 year ago

$2bn in 2022 for non-US. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/twitter-statistics/

Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X, is $1.2bn, then 6% is $72m. This would likely be a daily fine of about $197K per day USD, minus shifty billionaire revenue reporting.

[-] Loewi_CW@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

EU revenue fines are generally calculated by global revenue cause companies always try to shift the money to other countries.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X

What's the basis for assuming a 25%? Instead of, let's say, a 90%?

[-] Xtallll 6 points 1 year ago
[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am I missing something? I said revenue not profit. Or is the joke that Twitter isn't making any money anymore?

[-] King4408@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think it hardly ever was profitable and even revenue should be quite dropping since it became X

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 year ago

6% of their revenue is probably still billions of dollars. Might even amount to the biggest fine ever.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 1 year ago

$2bn in 2022 for non-US. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/twitter-statistics/

Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X, is $1.2bn, then 6% is $72m. This would likely be a daily fine of about $197K per day USD, minus shifty billionaire revenue reporting.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's MUCH less revenue than you'd expect from a worldwide behemoth like the shithole formerly known as Twitter!

[-] vidarh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And there you have the reason they sued to force Musk to stick to his word of buying it rather than let him off the hook and look for someone else dumb enough to pay that much for it.

[-] w2qw@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Hadn't read the actual letter. It would be interesting to know what the specific request they have is.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Ah so that's why he's tanking it

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You have to have revenue in order to be fined 6% of it.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I sometimes feel like the only person that remembers that DSA exists. It went into effect in August.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act

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