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[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just looks like an alternative to google and apple maps made by a few US corporations who haven't gotten into the map game yet. Pointless considering openstreetmap already exists.

[-] 8MinuteEssay@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

it's founded the linux foundation it's not going to be pointless as OSM is heavily inaccurate at times

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Was it founded by Linux Foundation? It looks like it was founded by and is mostly funded by the four steering members who are Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and TomTom.

It is "hosted by" Linux Foundation's "Joint Development Foundation" which says companies can

Use our legal agreements and our 501(c)6 corporate structure to start your specification and source code projects quickly and at no cost. The Joint Development Foundation provides you with a “consortium in a box.”

Linux Foundation itself does not appear to be otherwise involved.

Although the overture FAQ says they're complementary to OSM, I am uneasy about what looks like an embrace/extend/extinguish play from four giant companies who are all primarily in the proprietary software business.

[-] 8MinuteEssay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The Linux foundation is the founder and all works are going to be published as open source

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Linux foundation is the founder

Do you consider The Linux Foundation to be the founder of all projects listed as "Hosted With Joint Development Foundation" or is there some other connection in this case?

all works are going to be published as open source

This doesn't mean that something is not an effort by corporate interests to control and co-opt a movement; in fact, quite often it means the opposite.

In this case it sounds like would-be institutional contributors to OSM (which uses copyleft licenses for data, documentation, and source code) will be encouraged to instead contribute to Overture-managed permissively-licensed (meaning non-copyleft open source, allowing proprietary derivatives) datasets and software projects.

The only reasons I can see why these four companies are spending $3M/year each (plus 20 full time engineers each!) on a new project instead of contributing these resources to OSM is (1) they can't have full control of OSM's priorities (although they could have a lot, with the amount they're spending here), and, probably more importantly, (2) a large amount of what OSM produces is copyleft licensed.

compare the Overture Foundation's membership options:

... to the OSM Foundation's:

(note that three of the four steering members of Overture are already amongst the many corporate members of OSMF.)

this post was submitted on 24 Mar 2023
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