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[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I can't blame the Palestinians for fighting to get them out.

Oh is that what they were doing at the music festival?

You think you said something smart but that music festival took place on stolen land.

Doesn’t make it ok to kill civilians. But yes. That’s what they were doing. They were violently removing the guests of the colonist state invading them.

And speaking of killing civilians didn’t the government of Israel just tell a bunch of civilians where to seek shelter and then immediately bomb that shelter? How very honorable of them

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's funny how everyone forgets that 20% of Israel's population is Arab, the vast majority of which are Israeli citizens, and did not have their land stolen. Most of those that fled were listening to the propaganda of the Arab states that the Jews would commit genocide and were hopeful that the forces of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Egypt would commit massive genocide against the Jews, some were fleeing from retribution of their own violent pogroms. Does Israel have shitty politics? Yes. Does Israel need a constitution? Yes. Is it revealing that folks don't know a damn thing about the actual history of the place when they say Israel is an apartheid state, as Palestinian leadership has, time and again, ruined hope for lasting peace. Fuck Israelis setting up illegal settlements. The fact that Netanyahu actively ignores this/encourages it is atrocious. But to pretend there is anything approaching political unity in Israel is a lie and a farce.

All I took from that was “the Arab states told Palestinians that [Israel] would commit genocide” and they were right.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They told them to go to a city and then bombed where Hamas was, which was also in that city.

I dk what you think you're saying but you're just admitting that Israel kills civilians on purpose. You're dropping the veil of "human shields" and admitting that Israel is putting the civilians where they know Hamas is so they can use it as an excuse to kill both.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not even remotely.

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It’s actually because the “refugee camp” is a city of 120,000 people that have been there for 76 years in permanent buildings.

It was struck because militants were firing from it. Yes, there will be civilian casualties while Hamas is hiding in civilian structures. That’s what Hamas does.

Sure they were. Just like Hamas was hiding in the AP building. Just like Hamas was hiding in Shireen Abu Aqla's coffin.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You didn't even know the "camp" was a literal city.

Consider that you've bought into propaganda.

I just checked my history and I haven't used the word camp on Lemmy before right this very second. I'm pretty sure you have me confused with someone else.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Israel is putting the civilians where they know Hamas is

This is where you show you don't know that

[-] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well congratu-fucking-lations, you got the attention of big brother USA now by killing and kidnapping Americans. Hope y'all are prepared for the Gerald R Ford and her CSG, 'cause ready or not, here we come.

[-] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lol America isn't getting militarily involved in this one

[-] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So what's the Gerald R Ford Carrier Strike Group doing in the Eastern Mediterranean?

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Deterring Iran, mostly.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Kinda too late for that considering we essentially finance the IDF.

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