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The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz's population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be'eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It's one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

"Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul," a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 123 points 2 years ago

Hamas thought this operation would change everything.

They were right, but not in the way they expected. All they've done is turn soft sympathisers like myself away from their cause. They deserve everything they get and it's not going to be pretty. The Palestinian who will be killed during crossfire are on Hamas hands this time and the rest of the world will see it that way. absolute own goal, so they could... massacre a bunch of civilians. Hamas showing military genius of the likes of Russia

[-] turnleftist@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

Palestinians using violent means might think they're succeeding because they are actually getting landback for the first time in decades, but they fail to consider how bad it looks to me, a guy on the internet who thinks it would be better for their PR if they kept dying instead.

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

A) they didnt get land back, they are likely to lose more

B) throw rocks at tanks, dont be surprised when you get glassed

[-] turnleftist@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

A) they didnt get land back, they are likely to lose more

False, they did. And they only lose more if Israel continues its genocide, which you're prob gonna advocate.

B) throw rocks at tanks, dont be surprised when you get glassed

Like I said. Grotesque, as usual 🤣

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

False, they did

what, a bloodsoaked festival ground? for long?

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[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, the Gaza residents don't deserve collective punishment, and that is what Hamas wants. They want Israel to overreact and clamp down. They want videos of their dead children and women across all media. This is part of the tried and true strategy of big guy vs little guy conflicts, and guess what it NEVER WORKS... for the big guy.

How did 9/11 work out for Osama Bin Laden? Better then he could have ever even dreamed of.

You can't kill your way out of this kind of conflict. The only ways out are A) complete genocide or B) political resolutions and bringing them to the table.

Neither Bibi, nor Hamas, want option B, and they're both hoping that eventually option A will work out in their favor.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

At the next Hamas leadership meeting

"Guys our attacks are causing us to lose the support of Internet neckbeards that kind of sort of support us but never did anything at all to show that support"

"Oh no, they're our most crucial supporters"

"I told you we should have just kept letting the IDF commit war crimes on us with impunity"

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

No, the Palestinians who are killed are on the hands of Israel, who killed them. The "they did it first" argument didn't work with your mom when you and your siblings were fighting as kids, what the fuck kind of mental gymnastics makes you think it works when we're talking about genocide of an entire people? You're out of your damn mind.

And don't get gleeful watching Palestinians die, because Israel is about to invade Gaza. That's house-to-house and room-to-room fighting. Ask the Russians how that went in WW2, or the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Israelis haven't done all their dying, they're just signing up for the slaughter now.

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The “they did it first” argument didn’t work with your mom when you and your siblings were fighting as kids

yet that is all you whiny terrorist supporters have been bitching and crying about since the attack (its ok to attack israel cause TheY dId It FiRSt

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Hamas has always supported genocide against Jewish Israelis, they have always been extreme. You had sympathy for that? WTF bro!?

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

sympathy for the plight of the poor bastards being used as pawns by their genocidal terrorist leaders? yeah of course I do. Why would I be in favour of wiping the people out?

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You shouldn't, but you phrased in a way that made it sound like the Palestinian masses are responsible for Hamas.

The masses aren't interested in instigating war or conflict. Muslims and Jews both could live in peace like they did before the West took over, but that would disrupt the western hegemony. I think people should blame leaders, including leaders outside the Middle East when we are looking for reasons for this never ending and bloody conflict.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

It was always unclear who was worse because it as always a tit for tat that has been going on for so long. It is such a complex issue.

What is not complex is this terror attack was totally one-sided and came at a time when tensions had been dropping and things seemingly improving. It is clear Hamas has gone too far, and it was just brutal to witness.

Isreal government leadership needs to change, and Hamas needs to be eliminated. Netanyahu has been in power for far too long and its dangerous, and unlikely to resolve and issues they have.

Once he is gone and Hamas is gone, they can perhaps come back to the bargaining table.

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