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When they glued themselves to the streets it was broadly criticized that the protesters were not targeting the ones responsible for climate change. That was already bs because people who choose a car for mobility are responsible for a part of climate change. Now when they are protesting against people who are even more responsible, like in this case, people like you criticize them for that. It seems like you would prefer if they would not protest at all.
I'm criticising them for being completely ineffective. Worse than that even - counter productive, because they undermine effective climate change activism.
Please describe what is effective climate change activism in your opinion, because I am unsure what you mean by that.
Effective climate change activism would mitigate climate change in some way.
These guys achieved absolutely nothing.
Are you able to explain what the objective was?
How many books have you read on political theory?
Who are your favorite critics of peoples movements and the history of protest politics?
This is an open question to all.
I have read 4-5 books on political theory, most of them on Marxism and various sects of anarchal socialism. Probably two dozen journal articles.
My favourite author is some guy out of a French university who published on contemporary civil disobedience a couple of years ago. And I certainly like the classics; Thoreau, Gandhi and ML King.
My favourite critic of nonviolent protest is Fred Hampton.
Amazing.
Lol troll
Sorry mate it's just a weird thing to say.
In anonymous online forums stating your credentials doesn't have the intended effect.
You're a troll and you have no intent in engaging in good faith argument
Don´t let the guy bother you. The best way to deal with trolls is to block them.
Sure mate. It's much easier to conclude that everyone you disagree with is a troll rather than acknowledging valid criticisms.
No one has been able to offer any insights into what the individuals featured in the article intended to achieve. Your ghandi quote refers to "tension" yet this protest was completely unsuccessful in achieving that.
The assertion that nothing was achieved here is the "good faith argument".
Can you give an example? what activism would mitigate climate change?
Yes. Can you?
Just like you mitigate answering my question, troll -> blocked
Ah yes, the hallmark of enlightened debate: block people that ask uncomfortable questions.
No one has answered my simple question: what were these people hoping to achieve?
You are talking about them. Seems quite effective.
Well "talking about" yes - but are these people really our best ambassadors? They can't be our best and brightest surely.
So we should patiently wait for things to change by voting every few years?
Protests are what changed the world for the better.
We need nukes