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The mother of a woman whose body was paraded through the streets by Hamas has pleaded for help finding her daughter.

A video showing German tattoo artist Shani Louk on the back of a pickup truck circulated on social media after the Palestinian militant group Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

Louk had been attending an outdoor "Festival for Peace" party near Kibbutz Urim when the area was targeted. First, rockets were launched, then gunmen and appeared and shot into the crowd, CNN reported. Party attendees told the outlet people immediately started to flee, passing dead bodies on the ground as they tried to escape the massacre.

The attack and resulting conflict has left hundreds of Israelis and Palestinians dead, with Israel's prime minister declaring war.

A video of a young woman with dreadlocks on the back of a pickup truck and surrounded by Hamas soldiers started circulating on social media shortly after the attack. In it, she appears stripped to her underwear, and her legs are bent at unnatural angles, while one soldier grabs her hair. People are also seen spitting on her body.

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[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 17 points 2 years ago

Different scenario because European colonizers actually had a home.

Where the fuck are the Jews supposed to go?

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 56 points 2 years ago

Where the fuck are the Jews supposed to go?

Wherever they want? There's tons of other places for the Israelis to go make lives for themselves. Who the fuck cares if they have "a state" or not? Just go fucking live and don't fuck shit up for yourselves or the people around you.

Demanding a "safe space" for your particular genetic deviation in this day and age is nothing more than nationalism. The Jewish people have an established history that encompasses the entire planet. What difference does it make if they have a "state" or not? Do you think the millions of non-practicing jews around the world give a shit?

Disclaimer: The people saying Jews shouldn't exist are ignorant, evil assholes. Also, the jews saying they have a right to bulldoze Palestinian homes are ignorant, evil assholes.

Fuck off with your religious/ethnic bullshit and figure out how to live alongside other fucking people.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago

So you believe in kicking 10 million people out of their homes and telling them to just figure it out?

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 21 points 2 years ago

Did they bulldoze a Palestinian farm to get their home?

Did you even read anything I wrote or did you just fucking knee-jerk to shitheel zionist talking points? You sound like a shitty AI bot.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago

Funny bit about the AI bot because when I asked you about Native American reservations it's like you didn't have an answer bc no one programmed you with that response yet.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

Like before, or now? Which one do You oppose?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

No, we don't believe in kicking 10 million Palestinians out of their homes and telling them the Israelites now live there

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago

Demanding a "safe space" for your particular genetic deviation in this day and age is nothing more than nationalism.

Do you feel the same way about Native American reservations?

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 14 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry, but what point are you trying to make?

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

Asking you a question, how do you feel about Native American "safe spaces"?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago
[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Sealioning is when you relentlessly ask for evidence, even when you know you're going to ignore it.

I'm asking for his opinion, which I suspect he won't give because he knows it's going to make him look some kind of way.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Who cares if they have a state or not? Did you magically forget 6 millions innocent jews vanishing in ww2? Who would protect the jewish race (yes it's a race, according to everyone in the world sadly) besides themselves? They 100% should have a country, and they 100% shouldn't have gotten the land of israel. But who gave them it? The world. The UN vote. So blaming them is not really fair. Ever since getting it from the UN, they did nothing but keep it safe, because again, who would defend their race but themselves.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 33 points 2 years ago

The allies should have given them land in europe or america instead they did imperialism and now we are here.

So honestly probably anywhere else

[-] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I think they should have made Israel from a piece of Germany.

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

My take is they should have given the jewish people Kalingrad.

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think that Zionism drew them to the region. They wanted to go there.

Germany would have been better though, in hindsight.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago

Should have, would have, could have.

Who the fuck care, where are the Jews supposed to go right now?

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

Where are the Palestinians supposed to go?

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You both are getting tangled up in victim vs. offender. The reality is that even if there was a place for one of the groups to go and live in peace, both sides would still fight tooth and nail about who is allowed to stay. Jerusalem is sky-daddy's resort and both want to possess it.

Reconciliation before secularism is impossible.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago
[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

It sure is easy to care about decisions someone made 80 years ago instead of dealing with the real life problems of present day.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

that is dealing with them.

step 1 - understanding

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Idk maybe they should have not done the exact same terrible things hamas is now doing. I think hamas is wrong and evil, but they didnt cast the first stone.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's such shortsighted opinion that if all humanity followed it there would be not a piece of the Earth left to live on. People don't automatically turn terrorist and torture civilians even if they go to war. But in this case they choose to and do cause increased suffering to others beyond whats necessary to win the fight because they enjoy when they can cause others to suffer. It's sick and deviant. No excuse.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

I mean it would have been better to give them a chunk of Germany.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

If they were more civilized (e.g. not rapping and torturing civilians) maybe there would be dozen of countries and organizations helping them with necessities and asylum but who in their healthy mind would go there to be humanitarian risking to be tortured, raped and made their body paraded through their streets?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I hear they've stopped doing rapping, and not just because rap music isn't as popular there.

When the wars are over, people in all other conflicts have generally gone home. Sierra Leone, Rwanda, america, Ukraine before, maybe Ukraine again soon, Poland, France, Belgium, Egypt, and Germany. When the war is over, people return home and begin rebuilding.

If the followers of judaism want to go home, I'm sure they'd be welcomed home and allowed to re/immigrate quickly and easily to the nations their parents fled from. Most could claim full citizenship quickly due to their parents' citizen status or the parents of their parents.

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