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[-] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 years ago

The Autobahn has become very tiring to drive on. Most people somehow decided that its easiest to drive in the middle lane at slow(ish) speeds, while the right lane stays empty for long stretches. Since you are not allowed to overtake on the right lane, both the left lane and the middle lane are clogged most of the time, averaging about 100-120 Km/h. If the public transportation was a bit more reliable and cheaper I would sell my car.

[-] Username@feddit.de 28 points 2 years ago

The problem is that even in low traffic, there is a truck on the right lane every few meters. Often, after you switch to the right lane, someone decides to drive right next to you, forcing you to brake.
It's just more comfortable to stay in the middle lane.

Now IMHO the real problem is when trucks are overtaking with 101km/h...

[-] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

It's just more comfortable to stay in the middle lane.

It's stil a dick move if the rightmost lane is free. Then you're effectively overtaking a phantom car at the exact same velocity (as nobody is allowed to pass right).

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

I agree but need to have "free" defined. If there's another truck 100/200m ahead then it's a pain in the ass because like the other said, others behind you won't do the same and will do a slight acceleration when you go in the right lane (because free space in front = accelerate hurr durr), preventing you from changing lanes again when you get to the next truck and so you have to brake and hope you get a gap again soon to overtake the truck.

If it's literally empty as far as the eye can see then yeah, move over!

[-] Username@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The rightmost lane is never completely free. And if it is, almost all drivers do use it.

What makes your right to go fast on the left lane more important than their right to go a reasonable ~120km/h in the middle lane?

[-] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

What makes your right to go fast on the left lane more important than their right to go a reasonable ~120km/h in the middle lane?

Nothing, but that wasn't the created scenario. If the right lane isn't free, do stick in the middle lane of course (squishing two vehicles together isn't gonna make them go faster, usually). The scenario created was talking of an empty right lane, which should only exist on the left side, as we should drive on the right side of the road.

[-] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

trucks are overtaking with 101km/h

As trucks are governed to a Vmax of 90 kph, and some even to 85 kph, I would suggest you get your speedometer checked, because it sounds like the advancement, required by law, is too high. It shouldn't show more than 7% more than your actual speed. Truck speedos are more rigorously controlled and show an average of 2 kph too much at 80 kph, so trucks overtaking at 101 kph is not normally possible - of course, speedo manipulation does occur, but it isn't so rampant that they all overtake at 101 kph.

[-] Username@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Okay, I never looked at a truck's speedometer. The point is they are overtaking just slightly faster.

It certainly feels like most trucks are going at least 90 km/h regularly.

[-] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The point is they are overtaking just slightly faster.

Trucks also spent long stretches in the same order, sometimes they change things up.

The speeds of trucks are measured on-board by a tachograph, so any big deviation can give them a fine, even if they weren't caught on the spot.

And that 20 second delay really isn't gonna impact the trip as a whole. Just rolling with it will make your trip less stressful, and therefore more enjoyable. If you're late, rushing through traffic isn't gonna make a significant impact, except on your risk of accidents.

[-] Username@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

And that 20 second delay really isn't gonna impact the trip as a whole.

That is true. Therefore there shouldn't be a problem with drivers driving a steady speed in the middle lane.

[-] mryessir@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Truck driver have timelines. It is totally okay, if they need to occupy the middle lane. Sometimes even the left lane. It is more rare then middle lane sitters.

But what is not okay is that the cultural habit of "don't clog" has forgotten. People are ignorant shits these days when entering cars.

If you decide to travel via 100 kph and do not want to flow with the traffic, then just stick to the right lane and flow with the trucks?! This way you have the most fuel savings as well.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

Driving on occassion on the A8 near Stuttgart and can't confirm it.
Usually trucks are clogging the most right line and overtaking each on the 2nd lane.
Most PKWs drive on the 2nd/3rd lane while the racers and overtakers use the 3rd/4th lane.
Also who cares about overtaking from the right. If you drive 120kph and my lane all drive 130 kph I will naturally overtake you. No need to switch lanes if the lane is free. Just don't overtake at +30 kph but more at 10 kph in relation to base Autobahn speed.

[-] samson@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago
[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

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[-] samson@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Neat post
Thanks for the lore

[-] samson@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I prefer tanki (;

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Stupid Leopards keep clogging up the highways

[-] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Just don't overtake at +30 kph but more at 10 kph

The law does account for this: If all lanes are well populated and you find your lane is actually moving faster than the lane to your left, you may pass - not overtake - on the right, as long as you are not more than 20 kph faster than the left lane.

The difference is in passing and overtaking: Passing is merely going faster than the other lane, but staying in your lane afterwards. Overtaking, or to give it its correct name of undertaking, is passing and then changing into the same lane as the passed vehicle.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's what I meant.
Thanks for clarifying!

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

I dont experience that in the part of Germany where I live but either way, have you seen how they drive in other countries? Thats wild compared to Germany...

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