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[-] blazera@kbin.social 151 points 2 years ago

Speed limits dont work, road design determines how fast people go.

[-] Vegoon@feddit.de 92 points 2 years ago

A section of the A24 was limited to 130 kmph for 20 years to reduce accidents. Because the reduction the speed limit was lifted early this year. Now there are 8% more accidents with injury and 42% more injured. Politicians call now to make it possible to limit the section again.

https://archive.ph/hPIpp

[-] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For highway lowering the speed may be effective but lowering the speed limit from 50 to 30 won't stop drivers from going 50 unless the road is designed for lower speeds. So long as lanes are wide and there are little obstructions for drivers to worry about hitting, such as bumpouts, boulevards, etc., they will go as fast as they feel comfortable unless there is a cop behind them.

Edit: 50kmh to 30kmh I don't know what that is in freedom miles

[-] blazera@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

it looks like it's designed for pretty extreme speeds

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Unlike the average driver.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's not actually. It's quite an old network so it was built before cars could go as fast as they can go now. There are surprisingly sharp corners and very short off ramps. If it were built from scratch today it would be even safer. Speed limits are bs outside of particularly tricky areas.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Is the image from the article not of the highway in question?

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ah yep my bad, I was speaking generally. The image in the article is only a short section of highway but it does look like one of the 2 lane sections that are usually quite old. If they were more modern and built for higher speeds they'd have an even shallower curve and would probably be 3 lanes with a hard shoulder. If you drive on the Autobahn you'll have a few moments where you notice the difference in road layout from those which more modern highways implement - the on and off ramps in particular can be a bit scary.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

Speed limits absolutely do work if there are cameras and consequences. Unfortunately everyone seems to have decided that suspending licences and siezing cars is a human rights violation.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

High gasoline prices also influence the average speed on the highways. The vast majority of people do not usually go faster than 120, many even less.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Idk, I'm seeing plenty of people here for whom gasoline is evidently not expensive enough yet

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

That is the problem, people with high end cars have enough money to pay an expensive fuel. Apart with an industry which mostly expensive high end E-cars, the high fuel prices only affect the people wich don't have money for such cars.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Well the funny part is that it's not even people in high-end cars that I'm seeing

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I was referring to those who go 300 on the highway, difficult for those with an old Ford Fiesta.

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