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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

LMAO just checked c/ukraine on lemmy.ml and it's completely overrun by libs inventing reality. It's going to be absolutely incredible to watch the meltdowns when it becomes obvious that the west is losing the war.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Wait it is not obvious yet? how obvious are we talking here?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Reality hasn't pierced the bubble yet, in mainstream lib circles Ukraine is still winning and Russian army is falling apart. Putin is about to be overthrown any day now.

I expect that the turning point will be when US cuts and runs. The failed offensive likely moved up the timeline for that significantly. It's going to be interesting to see how NATO meeting goes in July.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

That's one of the problems with the WSJ article: the framing implies that Ukraine still has a chance of kicking out Russia militarily. While we might be able to see through the headline, even articles like this provide some comfort to liberals.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Oh for sure, and it's pretty much impossible to publish an honest article in western media at this point. I mean look how Sachs has to go on random youtube channels now.

[-] Kettlepants@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I don't think the West plans on losing. I feel they plan to continue it for as long as possible, so as to transfer as much wealth to the military industrial complex as possible.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

It's pretty clear that all the plans the west made over the past two years have resulted in failure, I'm not sure why we should expect anything different going forward. Definitely agree that wealth transfer to the oligarchs who own the MIC is a big part of what keeps the proxy war going though.

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